Are there any reasons for me not respecting you?
Of course, if you suspect me of not respecting you, there are probably some reasons which I don't know about. And you know better
It creates higher server load, and this only fact is enough to try and make it less sloppy. Esspecially in those cases when you run three large queries instead of getting data from a variable that was already created.
I am not saying that. I am saying that Jelsoft's guidelines should be on the same level as W3C, with some minor fixes and additions, of course. There should be some standards for every language. There are standards for HTML/CSS/RSS, and I don't see why not standartize rules for PHP?
You are right... But, I am sure there is an expression that would not create any misconception... For example, there would be an icon instead the text. The icon would be wrappen into an URL that would lead to a detailed explanation, describing concisely what the icon means. With an extended explanation like that, it is possible to make sure that there are no misconceptions.
I already said that there would be no enforcement:
"Based on above + plus KirbyDE's post, I am rethinking the effectiveness of the above method... However, I'd like to propose another plan, which I am sure can act as a compromisse between the two sides:
On vBulletin.org, hacks have many custom fields ("Installer Included", "Support Provided", etc). It should be no problem for the forum administrators to add a field "QA Verified", editable only by the QA team and the administrators. Once the field is created, make the board display only the Verified hacks by default, with an option to display a complete list of hacks (both verified and non-verified). The option should be visualized as a link in every forum, and it should create a session variable (not a cookie), that would keep the setting as is until the user leaves the forum. Once he\she comes back, it will once again set to only display Verified hacks.
This way, it will feel like that the Verified hacks are positioned above non-verified hacks. While the coding style will not be enforced, vB hackers will be encouraged to code properly in order to rate higher and display their hacks better. The best part is, this system is easy to implement (I could help making it), and it would not require immediate validation, which is a plus from the QA team's point of view."
In other words, the QA guys would help the coder to perfect the code, after which the hack would be marked as "validated"...
You are still missing one: I'd rather not install your hack than to waste time for recoding it...
Then quite simply do not install the hack and shut up about standards then
What you are muttering about respect, I'm unsure - The message I am getting disrespects me - It disrespects my standpoint which is shared by others and it is at some points almost offensive...
It does not always create high server load - With multiple queries its not a case of a standard - Simply tell the user the information is already loaded and that their queries are not needed...
Jelsoft's guidelines should not be - PHP is not exclusive for Jelsoft - You are treating it as if it is or should be...
Whatever happens, it will cause more problems than it's worth - The only ones who are going to moan about standards are those who can already sort the problem out themselves, but cannot be bothered, but expect others to do it for them when they may not know how...
08-02-2005, 02:53 AM
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