Look, your point is mute. It's been stated umpteen times in this thread, by myself and others. Modifications are copyrighted to their owner. Not you, not anyone else is allowed to modify that code and distribute it. Simple as that. Nothing you say or do here will change that, unless they implement a checkbox where modification owners can choose to exempt their modification from that copyright.
It's not my problem if you're dependent on my mod and I abandon it and it's not vBulletin.org's. It's yours. I'm not saying it's right, and I certainly would never abandon my users, and I completely understand where you're coming from.
No matter how much you complain about it, there's only one solution to the problem and that's adding the checkbox. And even then, I personally won't opt in. And I think a lot of hack authors would feel the same way. There's a lot of intellectual property involved in big modifications such as the arcade hack you use in your example, so I doubt John would want anyone taking over his code should he disappear for whatever reason. And you must also remember that some people disappear for reasons out of their control. A member here a few years ago disappeared, and last I heard he was kicked out of his home, and living without a computer in one-bedroom flat in a bad area. These circumstances were out of his control. Once he sorts himself out, I think he'd be pretty annoyed that all the hard work he'd put in was out of his control. This is why copyright is there, to protect people like this
On a completely unrelated note, some of the links on your homepage are broken. I was trying to view your home cinema
You're missing my point completely.
I fixed the issue on my site, thanks.
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Originally Posted by towermatt
I just read this whole thread because it was bumped.
I can't believe this sense of "entitlement" that some people seem to have.
On the one hand, we have a forum that is staffed by volunteers to help us organize and find answers to our problems. They don't write stuff, they just provide a place for it to gather.
Then we have the coders/designers that spend 100's of man hours of their personal time to create free add ons and hacks for vbulletin.
But wait...that is not enough. The staff of this site not only has to keep things running smoothly, they also have to police the codes that are being put on the site to make sure everyone is cozy as a kitten. And that is without any legal right to the hack.
Too much to ask if you want my opinion (and even if you didn't)
It is our own responsibility, as members, to make sure if we have hacks or addons that we love, we keep in close contact with the developer outside vbulletin.org
Don't relax in the shade provided by this tree and then talk about how it isn't enough. Its selfish.
Also, don't speak like any of this stuff is a right to you.
**gets off soapbox**
I'm glad you got off your soapbox. You are also missing my point completely.
My point is that the vB.org team could excel by going the extra mile.
And anyone who things that forum admin don't become dependent upon hacks freely published in here is an idiot. It's that dependency on hacks which is a factor in the success of this forum and vBulletin in general. The popularity of this community and the number of useful (invaluable) free mods is something the vBulletin.com team probably (certainly ought to) consider to be very, very important to the success of their product.
I guess my gripe was mainly at the slapdash way that the vb.org team dealt with the removal of the hacks.
09-30-2007, 06:48 AM
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