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Old 08-14-2005, 08:05 PM
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I bought World Wide's Messenger for use with vBulletin a couple of years ago while 3.0 was still in early beta. Back then the difference between the two products was quite stunning. World Wide's Messenger was limited and fairly inflexible and not very user friendly. Meanwhile, vB was extremely flexible and friendly and very configurable, and very impressive. More importantly, when I asked WW about vbulletin integration and encouraged them to consider it, they basically blew me off and I was told they had no interest in supporting vBulletin or integrating with it. The truth is they were pretty arrogant about the whole thing at the time and I remember feeling pretty insulted by their attitude.

Later, I discovered Hivemail and for my money it was (and is) a vastly better email product. Its vB integration is very complete and it's a much nicer and more elegant overall job than what I saw with World Wide's Messenger back then. So I dumped WW's solution and installed Hivemail instead. Frankly, I haven't regretted that decision for a second and wouldn't dump Hivemail and go back to World Wide Messenger on a bet today.

I find it interesting now that WW has "seen the light". Furthermore, I admit I WAS pretty impressed with their Instant Messenger product even then. So, IMO, integrating their Instant Messenger product might well be worth considering. Perhaps I'll drop by their site and take another look.

Welcome to the vBulletin community, Jafo... I'm glad to know you've become a believer! My only wish is that you guys had listened two years ago when I tried to tell you vB 3 was gonna be a 2,000 pound gorilla very soon instead of treating me like the red-haired cousin!

Yes, I'll drop by and take a look at your World Wide Messenger hack ESPECIALLY if it also applies to your Instant Messenger. But if I need to replace Hivemail with your email in order to get your Instant Messenger product integrated too, I'm afraid I'm not going to be very interested...

Just Sign Me...
The Red-Haired Oracle! :disappointed:

Follow-up...

I did visit the World Wide Creations site (www.worldwidecreations.com) to check whether their Instant Messenger product integrates with vBulletin. According to a post there by the author of their Instant Messenger, that product does is not integrated with vBulletin because they're unable to replicate the MD5 encryption that vB uses for its passwords.

Bottom line: Their World Wide Messenger email utility integrates. Their Instant Messenger does not.

Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, I suppose. It was worth a visit.
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