Code Out

[hambil]

Peaceful civil disobedience.

This may get me in a lot of trouble. Banned for all I know. I don't know how the org has reacted to this kind of thing in the past.

I'm not trying to cause trouble, I'm trying to get a useful dialog started. And since the org don't appear to be listening, I will publish no more hacks on this site, nor support ones already published, for a period of one month.

If you wish to join me, post in this thread.

If asked for support on an existing hack by a user, I will give the canned reply:

"I'm sorry you are affected by this, but I am currently participating in a 'code-out' in protest of some vbulletin.org policies. I apologize for the inconviences and will answer your question as soon as our issues are worked out."

[PennylessZ28]

What's the goal, cuase I don't get it?

[Protoman]

force change upon vbulletin.org until our requests for the attitudes to change around here are met by witholding new hacks & support I'd guess from the many threads active at the moment.

[Tralala]

What specifically are you requesting to change, as part of the "issues to be worked out?" Sadly it seems to be that much of this is a personality clash.

(And that's inevitable when you gather a bunch of alpha-types, who all enjoy the power associated with running their own forums.)

Perhaps the folks who are feeling disaffected should fashion a list of very specific requests they'd like to see instituted, rather than going on "strike."

Asking for "attitudes to change" is a bit vague and not likely to happen.

[hambil]

The goal is simply to open a dialog to discuss whatever coders feel needs discussing, rather than just have our complaints dismissed as "you're replaceable".

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by hambil

The goal is simply to open a dialog to discuss whatever coders feel needs discussing, rather than just have our complaints dismissed as "you're replaceable".

So you're looking for a more direct line of feedback than Site Feedback or PM's. Perhaps a "preferred forum" where Coder's comments and suggestions are taken more seriously than those from newbies and regular users?

[hambil]

Originally Posted by Tralala

So you're looking for a more direct line of feedback than Site Feedback or PM's. Perhaps a "preferred forum" where Coder's comments and suggestions are taken more seriously than those from newbies and regular users?

I don't think 'more seriously' is the issue. Coders have concerns over different things than other members. I think we just want to be heard on issues that directly effect us. An example is the hack database, which has been promised. Many coders have offered to help, for free, to make it a reality but they seem to just be ignored.

[Logikos]

Its a pride issue with the Hacks Database. Thats why they won't allow other hackers to distribute code for it. I can't think of any other reason why they wouldn't allow fellow coders to help code site projects.

The vBulletin.org coding days are over for me, unless of course things happen to change.

[Protoman]

Originally Posted by Tralala

What specifically are you requesting to change, as part of the "issues to be worked out?" Sadly it seems to be that much of this is a personality clash.

come up with a list then.. I personally have only noticed the lack of respect between members.

[Code Monkey]

Since it has been stated clearly that my presence and contributions here are of no significance to the continued existence and well being of this site. And that I may come or go without advantage or detriment to the whole. I have removed all my code contributions. Those that have my code already may continue to use them but you may not redistribute it or update it in any way. I retain copyright and may choose to offer it through another site.

I apologize for any blatant insignificance on my part. I’m quite confident, as was clearly stated by those that guide this community, that I will be replaced quickly by many more capable coders to follow.

Have a nice day