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Old 02-12-2006, 07:12 AM
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someone republished them in a muslim periodical or someone distributed a periodical with the incriminating cartoons. either way the cartoons were originally published last year, so someone had to make them resurface.
No muslum newspaper or tv or any magazine ever published these cartoons. The cartoons were published first in Denmark and afterwards they were published by some european countries.
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Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.
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Old 02-12-2006, 02:29 PM
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Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.
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Old 02-12-2006, 05:40 PM
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Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.
I agree about stereo typing but this is not that case. Sadly most of the Muslims all over the world are seeking revenge and taking it. This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags. Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too. Thats not a small group or a stereotype.
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I agree about stereo typing but this is not that case. Sadly most of the Muslims all over the world are seeking revenge and taking it. This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags. Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too. Thats not a small group or a stereotype.
That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.
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This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags.

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Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too.
Need I say more about stereotyping?
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That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.
I agree.

Not every Muslim, even though he/she maybe offended by those cartoons, is shouting for revenge and Jihad.
I strongly believe the press is blowing things up outside proportions and that some goverments are taking advantage from that by encouraging protests. In Iran you can't protest without permission from the government. And it's like that in some other countries.

Turkey is a very moderate islamic country. There are also many Christian Turks living there. I've seen some beautiful churches in Istanbul
Also here in Holland Isalmic people are shocked. But there has been some peacefull protests and no more. No burning of the Danish ambasade or stuff like that.

The other thing is a cultural difference. Why is it that those cartoons are so offending to them? Cartoons are mostly just a satirical view on things. In our Western society they are normal. And yes, some are offending but if someone feels offended they go see the judge and see what he thinks.
Not so in the Islamic world. And if we could understand why, we should be a lot closer to living together in peace.
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That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.
You live in a pretty peacefull country compared to your neighbors.....
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You live in a pretty peacefull country compared to your neighbors.....
Certainly does, death signs etc have been carried world wide almost for this, even now theres protests kicking around still and the subject is old news of old news. The funny thing is its more islamic tradition, (ie hadith, please forgive any spelling errors here), thats not even adhered to in a strict way by some of the countries that are protesting, as theres been many artistic depictions of mohammed over the centuries by muslims, some faceless, some complete.

It is quite funny and imo conincidental how large quantities of the right flag is suddenly available in all these countries just at the right time and hordes seem to have one to burn.
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You have idiots everywhere, who just seek some attention. And any excuse to do something stupid.
Here you have a group of idiots on both sides.

Started with the cartoons to provoke the other group. Of course there are people who still want a non-violent resolution to this, but they are overshadowed by the violent group as always.

Such issues do get misused by some groups, specially by the press and many political parties and other such groups.
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