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Old 10-08-2005, 03:59 PM
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Hi,

I've seen that some of my hacks (under Vbdev username) were modified and updated to work for vb 3.5 without my permission and the hacker hasn't asked yet to know if I want of it !

Is he right having done this ? Is it allowed ?

I wanted to update this hack by myself, what do I do ? I don't ?

Thanks for replies (and sorry for my english :nervous: )
I thought of Windows first ..... Linux is using the same idea as Windows but coded differently......Hmmm.

Are there any references in his/her hack made toward yours?
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:05 PM
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i've seen some guys porting 3.0 hacks to 3.5, and in their credits, they write that they asked permissions but never had a reply, so they took the right to do the release anyway...

i think that something needs to be done about that... make solid statements in hacks release rules, where you indicate that if you did not have permission, you can't release an update.

i would find this funny myself, i've recreated a lot of vB 2.0 hacks for my personal uses, and i would be happy to release them as 3.5 hacks, i would have a list of about 150 hacks right now, with all the prestige that it deserve... but i never asked the permission to rewrite and release updates of these hacks, so it would be like stealing the effort of someone else, and the credits... (90% of the guys never rewrite credits!)

same way that we had to discuss how to offer our own releases for the market,.. if someone wants to play with my hacks and upgrade them, i just want the guy to ask me permission, and i would be pleased to see my work rebuilt... but if i see one day that my code was overwritten and the guy state that he contacted me (and i was not aware of), for sure i would be very upset about that, like grog6 !!!
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:34 PM
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I think its beneficial to have more than one hack that does something. Let there be 5 hacks that do the same thing or almost the same thing in the end but done differently. No harm in that. No idea is truly original. There's multiple home page hacks, arcades, shoutboxes. The more the better. Gives people more choices.
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:47 PM
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no problem with that Jenta, we talk about releasing the work of someone else, not doing a different one...
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:22 PM
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What hacks are you referring to ? (and why have two userids ??)
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:25 PM
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I ask the originally coder for permission to port over their hacks, I would wish someone to do the same if they're porting my hacks.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:30 PM
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I agree with the post that said if there are five ways to do a hack, all five should be welcome if the code is original. No one owns an idea.

But that's not what the thread is about. I agree, there should be a chain of permission when reusing code.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:29 PM
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Yeah unless someone has a patent or pending.......
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:08 PM
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He had this hack : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...lay+statistics

I ported it over without releasing it and was wanting to release it pretty bad. I redid the template and turned it into a product. When I went to contact him over releasing it he didn't allow e-maisl to be sent to him, pms were disabled by him, and his site was down. I had no way to contact him. Pretty annoying. Perhaps this person tried the same thing? I'm not sure.

As for the whole can a proted hack be released thing: If the hack is all original code it should be allowed even if it does the exa t same thing as anohter hack.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:59 PM
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Sorry, I had no time to answer before

The hack I'm speaking about is Thank you Hack

I've looked at the code, it's not the same, but admit that the idea was "stolen" ... It's not a shame, sorry for troubles

@TruthElixirX : I hadn't ever seen you updated one of my hacks too (some were created by Mtor under vbdev username, but this one was created by mee too)

For PMs, they are disabled coz we have no valid licence for this account, our site is "dead" and so we cant' use PM coz we are unlicenced with this username on vb.org
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