The State of this Forum

[Freddie Bingham]

This thread is old so please stop bringing it back up!

[Smellycat]

Originally posted by freddie
[*]Be careful what you post or you will be slammed

My first week here, cost me having to deregister!, and sign up again for my newbyness.

So yeah i agree that some people are far too hostile here, but thats the big wide world i guess. Found it very friendly though on vbulletin.com

[Mark Hensler]

"quantity != quality"
I whole heartily agree.
(I have no quantity, so I must be all quallity, right? j/k)

"All the hackers are a bunch of kids looking to make money"
I have that impression as well. A large portion of the hackers anyway. This isn't exactly something you're gonna put on a resume... Realize it for what it is... a learning experience, a labor of love...

I've also noticed quite a few links to make PayPall donations. There may not be anything wrong with that, but when you see half of everyone with one of these....

[Steve Machol]

FWIW I used to actively read about all the hacks when they were still at vbulletin.com. However there's no question that I have lost interest in most hacks since the move to vb.org. I hadn't really thought about the reason for this lack of interest, but perhaps it's partly due to the issues Freddie raised.

[Neo]

I would have to fuly argee. I just am starting not to like this site very much anymore.. I do come here since I like making hacks but I have been feeling like people are being demanding of hacks so I dont even bother.

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by neo
I would have to fuly argee. I just am starting not to like this site very much anymore.. I do come here since I like making hacks but I have been feeling like people are being demanding of hacks so I dont even bother.

You twisted it around. I don't see demanding users. If 20 different people say " have you made that multiple attachment hack yet ", that is not demanding. Don't put a signature that says "Current Projects: Multiple Attachments", if you don't want people to bug you about it.

[FWC]

There is merit in much of what Freddie says. However, I must add that while I read this board constantly, I rarely go to vbulletin.com anymore because I can't stand the constant whining and attacks on the vB staff that go on there. The 2.2.5 announcement discussion thread is a classic example. I love vB and I think the vB team is top notch. The abusive members over there have ruined that place for me.

[Neo]

I have had a few people demand hacks through IM

[TECK]

Originally posted by freddie
Some of you seem to happy to except mediocrity. Where is the polish to show you care about what you are doing? Perhaps you should spend more time working on each hack instead of trying to win some unimportant race to be the top hacker. Speaking of which, I don't think we should be tracking these sorts of stats as it only helps fuel some to act like children.

I want this forum to be more than it currently is.

<flame on>

And remember I am speaking as a hacker, not as a Jelsoft representative.

i must say this: when i started using VB, i didnt know nothing about PHP. but i'm a stubborn person and i dont like to lose, so i started understanding the mechanism and spending every day some time on php.net to read info and code snippets. so i agree with the line "you should spend more time working on each hack instead of trying to win some unimportant race to be the top hacker".

alot of people here don't know what is this: "respect for your collegue" and "help the community". lazy? yes i was lazy with one of my hacks once (vbHome) by not updating the code variables the right way. but i corrected all this when a user complained about it.

i personally consider myself lucky that i'm among this community. that's why sometimes i get a little harsh with people who insult others with terms like "lame", "gay", etc. this is not a way to deal with people. we are here to help eachothers, not to overinflate our chests.

how do i participate myself to this community? not by posting the "best" hack, but by trying to help others in need, with the little PHP knowledge i have. i'm not shy to see i'm wrong and to apologise.

there are some bad apples in every garden, as we say in romania. but i believe we have a good spirit community here. we just have to chisel ourself and learn how to act into our large family.

flame? why would people flame your post? all you said was truth and deep down inside of us, we all admit this. i do. and i apologise for this. i will try my best to correct any of the issues related to this matter (attitude, code, etc), even if dont see myself guilty of doing something. i try my best to help people with their problems and sometimes to come up with a little hack. but is like that, if you analise your actions, you start to see what you did wrong and you regret it. i'm sure we all do. deep down inside of us.

all the best,
nakkid.

[Modshack]

I don't think we should be allowing the selling of any hacks on this forum. I don't begrudge any one's right to make a buck but capitalism in this community only stifles its growth. We could be so much more but never achieve it. vBulletin is a better product than UBB but vbulletin.org is not at ubbdev.com's level.

Freddie I made this point on vb.com and was shot down in flames by many of the people who sell the hacks as well as those who are dumb enough to buy them.

I have always said that this place should be a community and that it should be non profit making and for the good of the community and I take my hat off to you for having the wotnots to say what you think.

I think that some people should lighten up and also learn to take a joke too.

Yesterday I made a post on shoutbox that it was my birthday and that unless people be nice to me I would kill FireFly, I expected the reaction of people calling me an evil meanie as come on I would never consider killing Chen, well maybe if there was a lot of money involved from infopop .

Anyhow the post was made in good humour but people failed to see it that way as they are too preocupied being IMHO bum kissers.

I hope Chen did not take it the wrong way and that he saw the funny side of it. But I realy do think Neo, 69-FLy-gUy and afterlab should go out and smell some fresh air or something.

I myself had a run in with Chen a while back but he has more than proved his worth and that he is capable of running this forum and tbh I see this as his creation.

Sinecure I class in the same light as those who sell hacks as he has sold styles before today, same thing realy as he is using his position to make money from something that is essentialy free.

Anyhow I am happy to see that Jelsoft takes its members views seriously.

Yours respectfully

HM