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Old 12-04-2011, 09:21 PM
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I would be grateful for some advice from one of the techs/legal members please.

If following a lawsuit for say defamation and slander of a member against a website, where the court grants access to the sever logs, who physically gets the logs to hand over.
Is it the staff members of vbulletin or is it a tech from somewhere else?

Does the member gain access to the server logs for the entire website or are just the logs in question sent to him?

I would be grateful for information regarding this, thank you.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:33 AM
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It is definitely not a vbulletin staff member. Staff member's have no access to anyone's forums, court ordered or not.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:01 AM
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The tech who looks after the site.
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Thank you Paul M. This is the answer I was seeking. Who actually does it.
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I'd imagine it would be a court ordered person trained in forensics for computer systems.
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I would be grateful for some advice from one of the techs/legal members please.

If following a lawsuit for say defamation and slander of a member against a website, where the court grants access to the sever logs, who physically gets the logs to hand over.
Is it the staff members of vbulletin or is it a tech from somewhere else?

Does the member gain access to the server logs for the entire website or are just the logs in question sent to him?

I would be grateful for information regarding this, thank you.
Depending on international laws or domestic law?

Internet Brands, Inc / Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. ...ie... vBulletin would not have the authority to act and generally would not have the server access to anyone's server, unless it was some how obtained.

But as stated, no respecting court would seek to contact a software developer / company in regarding someone else's server, unless it could be proven that developer / company had or did have access (hypercritically speaking).

Assuming the server in question is domestic (within the country you reside in), it would be an order of the court deliverable to the web hosting provider. And this assuming that all database is housed on that server.

Of course you would also need to prove how the owner of the site / company was directly responsible. Going off at some random user would also require tracking down that user and this again assuming both the user and IP range is domestic.

Internationally.... Things get interesting and a lot more involved. An outside country has no responsibility to comply with your local laws or government.

Good luck though.
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