Sarkozy: Burkha is not welcome in France!

[UKBusinessLive]

Hi SSCC and thanks for your post, I think your missing the point here, The debate is not that women should wear the burkha or not, but should they break the laws of a non islamic country.

Its like me saying my wife likes to Drink so its ok to go to Saudi arabia and drink in the streets?? Its not, and she'll probably end up in prision. I cannot argue the case, full stop.

Whilst western reporters work in islamic countries they respect their laws by wearing a scarf on their heads.

So whats so hard about going to a non islamic country and respecting their laws ?

To refine, The debate is not about wearing the Burkha, Women can wear it all day long, the issue is that a non muslim country has banned the burkha because of several issues, and thats what you have to expect when you visit a non islamic country, like we respect your laws when we go to yours.

[unp]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

So whats so hard about going to a non islamic country and respecting their laws ?

No problem with that,if someone got a problem with some country's law they can choose not to go there.
But what about French Muslim women, born and lived all their lives in France.
What choice will they have if the anti-burkha law is passed ?

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by unp

No problem with that,if someone got a problem with some country's law they can choose not to go there.
But what about French Muslim women, born and lived all their lives in France.
What choice will they have if the anti-burkha law is passed ?

Not a lot, they will have to change to suit the Law of that country, but i'll bet it will be only a very tiny percent as if a muslim women has lived all her life in France she would be pretty westernised by now.

Take France's Justice Minister Rachida Dati seen here on the left, That doesn't make her a bad Muslim.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by unp

No problem with that,if someone got a problem with some country's law they can choose not to go there.
But what about French Muslim women, born and lived all their lives in France.
What choice will they have if the anti-burkha law is passed ?

The law of the land applies.If they dont like it then they can go to a country that allows them to dress as they please.

Originally Posted by unp

Unfortunately the ban on burkha will confine those women to their own houses. Some won’t be comfortable in public without a burkha and other may not be allowed.
That law will liberate them form the veil and imprisoned them in their own homes.

This will proberly only affect the older generation who are to set in their ways to welcome change.As for making them prisoners in their own home i highly doubt and see that remark as just scaremongering.

[Lionel]

Surveillance cameras play a big role in our society. I am just curious, how do you catch someone who commits a crime wearing a burkha in a neighborhood where everyone wears one?

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by Lionel

Surveillance cameras play a big role in our society. I am just curious, how do you catch someone who commits a crime wearing a burkha in a neighborhood where everyone wears one?

I don't think there is in a western country a neighborhood where everyone wears one. Its just a very small minority that make the women wear the burkha, and because of the fact that no one can be sure if a woman is forced to wear it or she does it off her own free will.

Theres also the security issue, and its not generally accepted in western culture to walk around in a mask, it gives the impression of "I don't Want to belong in your Society"

[RedeemedWarrior]

Originally Posted by lasto

The law of the land applies.If they dont like it then they can go to a country that allows them to dress as they please.


This will proberly only affect the older generation who are to set in their ways to welcome change.As for making them prisoners in their own home i highly doubt and see that remark as just scaremongering.

exactly people must abide by the laws of the land,

I'm a christian and wouldn't unless as a missionary go ANYWHERE near a muslim nation, the culture sw against my own, Islamics who are in Christian/catholic nations must abide by the laws of those nations, or return to an islamic nation, there are after all, more than enough of those going around

[Ba$im]

okay
first of all you are wrong about "Burkah" which is write in arabic برقع
it’s not thing that you mean look at this


so what he mean is "Negab"
so I hope in next time he first read before he talk

any way
you guys say that france is the country of freedom and every one can life his life as he want

so why as some women love wearing Bikini some women want wearing Negab.
why Mr Sarkozy angry ?

if he not angry from that and he just said
hey muslims this is my country
this is my world
and I’m who said what you wearing and what you won’t

okay I’m totally don’t have any problem with that
but also
on every muslims country for every francian people
we will say the same
this is our world
and you should wearing Negab
so are you agree on that?

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by Ba$im

okay
first of all you are wrong about "Burkah" which is write in arabic برقع
it?s not thing that you mean look at this


so what he mean is "Negab"
so I hope in next time he first read before he talk

any way
you guys say that france is the country of freedom and every one can life his life as he want

so why as some women love wearing Bikini some women want wearing Negab.
why Mr Sarkozy angry ?

if he not angry from that and he just said
hey muslims this is my country
this is my world
and I?m who said what you wearing and what you won?t

okay I?m totally don?t have any problem with that
but also
on every muslims country for every francian people
we will say the same
this is our world
and you should wearing Negab
so are you agree on that?

I guess as a leader of a country he doesn't want to see this type of seperation amongst his people. Just like leaders in islamic countries expect westerners to cover up. you have to respect each countries laws.

Muslims are doing quite well in france with several High ranking Muslims in government. Just because they don't wear a Burkha makes them a bad muslim.

[Ba$im]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

I guess as a leader of a country he doesn't want to see this type of seperation amongst his people. Just like leaders in islamic countries expect westerners to cover up. you have to respect each countries laws.

Muslims are doing quite well in france with several High ranking Muslims in government. Just because they don't wear a Burkha makes them a bad muslim.

oh man
you are totally don?t answer my question

we didn?t talk here about does Negab make women bad or not
and we didn?t talk about the feeling of Mr Sarkozy
also I notice you really need to come to Saudi Arabia
cuz you talke as the western people here can?t live there life as they want
so I want give this picture
it?s from Ryiadh the capital of Saudi Arabia







I beleive it was St George's Day as I remember
no one of any muslims Saudi Arabia
go to them and said hey christian
you shouldn?t wearing this
u should wearing Negab

I hope you get my point