modification graveyard problem! gettin real annoyed now

[Lizard King]

It is webmasters own responsibility to follow the modifications etc. If you download a modification and install it to your forum , you should always keep a backup of both files and install instructions of the mod.

If you donot do that , there is no meaning to complain.

[Spank]

Originally Posted by Lynne

You *are* being kinda selfish. You come to this site, download the modifications, and expect other people to do stuff that *you* should have done in the first place - kept track of your modifications and made sure you have good notes regarding each and every one of them. That is *your* responsibility - not ours, not the developers, but *yours*. Take responsibility, Gotti, stop trying to push it off on someone else.

Seconded.

[King Kovifor]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

well gee, instead of myself sharing the information of uninstall procedure, maybe i should be knida selfish like the person either requesting the mod to goto the graveyard or movign it to the graveyard if there is a exploit or whatever found, not care, and just keep the information to myself? but that would defeat the purpose of my argument that if data goes missing on our end, and a mod is moved to the graveyard, atleast we will know what we as owners and installers of mods need to do to uninstall the thing

So, you would rather have us impose several rules on developers so that these items can be placed here. To me, that's more work, as I'm now forced to duplicate uninstall instructions just to get my work released here. I would be extremely averse to the idea! As stated several times, it is the user's responsibility to keep track of it. Copy your install instructions to the server when you install, keep a back up in several places. I can't tell you how many random mod files I had stored around here (my own) that were of various versions and install instructions and such to keep track of them. Now, everything is under SVN so I don't have to...

[GoTTi]

nah not getting turned around on me, no way.

the idea is to have the uninstall information placed on the mods when moved to the graveyard. either removal of the plugin or whatever. staff can do it or dont, its the suggestion i submitted to this vb.org feedback forum. take it or not. im not gunna argue and debate it anymore, aint getting anywhere obviously. its not just my lost when it happens so whatever.

just close the thread already or delete it, useless.

[Spank]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

nah not getting turned around on me, no way.

the idea is to have the uninstall information placed on the mods when moved to the graveyard. either removal of the plugin or whatever. staff can do it or dont, its the suggestion i submitted to this vb.org feedback forum. take it or not. im not gunna argue and debate it anymore, aint getting anywhere obviously. its not just my lost when it happens so whatever.

just close the thread already or delete it, useless.

It's only not getting anywhere because you won't accept the reasons why this isn't really feasible. So you need to accept the reasons and suggestions given to you and move on.

[RedeemedWarrior]

I backup everything in Zip and Rar folders on my Large Hard-drive

Everything i use i keep 2 backup's of, that way no matter what happens here i have my copy

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by Spank

It's only not getting anywhere because you won't accept the reasons why this isn't really feasible. So you need to accept the reasons and suggestions given to you and move on.

i already did. im over the topic already.

[R-D]

Originally Posted by GoTTi

nah not getting turned around on me, no way.

the idea is to have the uninstall information placed on the mods when moved to the graveyard. either removal of the plugin or whatever. staff can do it or dont, its the suggestion i submitted to this vb.org feedback forum. take it or not. im not gunna argue and debate it anymore, aint getting anywhere obviously. its not just my lost when it happens so whatever.

just close the thread already or delete it, useless.

You really seem to be missing the point here. Short of having a time machine to go back in time and download the modifications before they're deleted by the thread starters, how are the staff supposed to do that?

That's obviously excluding the time constraints, which, quite frankly, shouldn't be a staff duty anyway. I'd rather they were moderating the site, not spending hours writing instructions for someone else's modification.

You should take this up with the coders who don't leave uninstallation instructions, not the staff. It's the coder's modification, the coder's decision to delete their mods (barring security issues, obviously) and the coder's failure to leave uninstall instructions.

Aside from providing this (free) resource, Jelsoft and the staff aren't responsible for other people's work and to be frank, that's the way it should be.


If you really want uninstall instructions or backed up modifications, you have both your server and your hard drive. There's no real reason why both should fail and there's also no excuse not to use every opportunity to backup everything, especially as you seem to have such a big problem with this. I have modifications spread across 2 hard drives and my server. There's no reason why you, or anyone else, can't do the same.

[GoTTi]

Originally Posted by R-D

You really seem to be missing the point here. Short of having a time machine to go back in time and download the modifications before they're deleted by the thread starters, how are the staff supposed to do that?

That's obviously excluding the time constraints, which, quite frankly, shouldn't be a staff duty anyway. I'd rather they were moderating the site, not spending hours writing instructions for someone else's modification.

You should take this up with the coders who don't leave uninstallation instructions, not the staff. It's the coder's modification, the coder's decision to delete their mods (barring security issues, obviously) and the coder's failure to leave uninstall instructions.

Aside from providing this (free) resource, Jelsoft and the staff aren't responsible for other people's work and to be frank, that's the way it should be.


If you really want uninstall instructions or backed up modifications, you have both your server and your hard drive. There's no real reason why both should fail and there's also no excuse not to use every opportunity to backup everything, especially as you seem to have such a big problem with this. I have modifications spread across 2 hard drives and my server. There's no reason why you, or anyone else, can't do the same.

anyways, im over the topic. not taking any suggestions from anyone regarding it, go ahead and close the topic or move it to the graveyard. dead issue already

[TNCclubman]

Its a good idea, why doesnt everyone just take a deep breath and realize its for the greater good.

When they first imposed a seatbelt law everyone screamed and hollared...