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Old 04-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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I apologize Brad. Perhaps I am reading into your posts something that isn't there.

I will take a break from this thread for now
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:49 PM
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I apologize Brad. Perhaps I am reading into your posts something that isn't there.

I will take a break from this thread for now
I may come off as "mean" at some times but I assure you I never 'mean' it. I just prefer to get to the point as quickly as possible and leave 'feelings' at the door. I argue with facts in other words.

Also when I say things like 'damn' it doesn't mean I'm angry...although it could come off that way I'm sure. Damn is just a normal part of my speech patterns IRL (mostly in the form of "God Damnit" at the end of a sentence) and it tends to leak over into text. Honestly I find myself searching for words all the time as my southern slang would only serve to confuse you all if I typed it out.

As I tell everyone if I was mad at you you'd probably know it, because I wouldn't be taking the time to respond to these threads. I appreciate your effort in trying to think up work around and compromises for this situation but if I see holes in your theory I'm going to bring them up. That's just how it is...but I'm not claiming I'm always right..in fact a Microsoft employee made me look like a dumb ass a few days ago on one of the forums I admin.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:53 PM
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I may come off as "mean" at some times but I assure you I never 'mean' it. I just prefer to get to the point as quickly as possible and leave 'feelings' at the door. I argue with facts in other words.
I also argue with facts. Everyone thinks they argue with facts. Yet most things people consider facts are really only opinions, no matter how strong they feel about them. There are many ways to look at any given issue. This issue is a great example of how smart people from many different backgrounds and groups can have wildly different ideas of what facts are and what is 'right'.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:21 AM
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I'm not sure I understand what you're arguing about. Your license is tied to your account right? So what's wrong with vBulletin sending a request to vbulletin.org/misc.php?do=install&product=whatever&license=12345 whenever a product gets installed? It might not work with people with multiple licenses, but it's better than nothing.

I guarantee there are people using insecure versions of my hacks out there. And if those scripts do get exploited, I'm sure they'll blame this site.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:50 AM
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Like Paul already mentioned: There is no connection to a license# from vbulletin.org.
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Old 04-14-2007, 07:19 AM
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Well I think install counts should be viewed more like a percentage relative to other mods install counts.

My biggest problem is that few people install mods which I think are great while other not so great mods have high install counts. The market place here is hard to please for me, I'm not sure what kinds of people I'm dealing with, if they rather have pretty flashy things to good functionality. Also I don't like how my mods are quickly buried under an avalanche of threads, never again to be seen. I wonder how some people are able to find them and install them.

There was an interesting point in this topic, that Mark As Installed should be Get Updates. I think changing it would help having a more precise install count. It would also remove the feeling that install counts are actually the precise number of people that installed.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:00 AM
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There was an interesting point in this topic, that Mark As Installed should be Get Updates. I think changing it would help having a more precise install count. It would also remove the feeling that install counts are actually the precise number of people that installed.
In my opinion the current install button is overloaded in triplicate right now. If has the following three functions:
1) Identifying end users who want to get update emails.
2) Showing the end user how popular a mod is.
3) Showing the mod author how many people have installed his/her mod.

The only thing it actually does well is #1.

It should thus be renamed, and a town-hall style meeting should be held to discuss the other two. For starters, #2 is supposed to be taken care of by thread ratings, IMHO the thread rating system would need to be expanded into some sort of ebay style feedback system before it would have much value.

#3 Should be handled with as much accuracy as possible, or just not done at all.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:37 AM
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I like the idea of getting it named 'Get Updates', it sounds more logical than 'Install'.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:42 AM
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Check my other thread in this forum, I made it to discuss that specifically.
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