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[Shazz]

Originally Posted by EvilAkuma

People goes from pirated to license. Amazing isn't it?

The feelings are like...
If you see something on vB.org you like you can't download it but you REALLY want it other one is you got caught by jelsoft or piratereports and your forced to

[SmashinYoungMan]

I really can't swallow this "try it before you buy it" mentality where vB is concerned. vB isn't some newly released game, or unheard of band where you need to sample their product before you plunk down the dough at the store (an oft repeated excuse for pirating).

vB is pretty much the de facto standard when it comes to message board software these days. I very seriously doubt anyone who goes through the effort of finding a pirated version of vB, downloading, then installing it hasn't had at least a little experience with the software before as a poster.

No, they want what the "big boys" use, at no cost.

I don't doubt that many break down and pay for the license when they find that getting access to plugins and upgrades is a major pain, but that in no way excuses their initial theft. Even if, in the end, piracy equates to more sales for Jelsoft, that doesn't make those that pirate vB any less scum in my opinion. Pat yourself on the back for finally paying for vB all you want, you're still a common thief.

[G0F0RBR0KE]

Originally Posted by SmashinYoungMan

I really can't swallow this "try it before you buy it" mentality where vB is concerned. vB isn't some newly released game, or unheard of band where you need to sample their product before you plunk down the dough at the store (an oft repeated excuse for pirating).

vB is pretty much the de facto standard when it comes to message board software these days. I very seriously doubt anyone who goes through the effort of finding a pirated version of vB, downloading, then installing it hasn't had at least a little experience with the software before as a poster.

No, they want what the "big boys" use, at no cost.

I don't doubt that many break down and pay for the license when they find that getting access to plugins and upgrades is a major pain, but that in no way excuses their initial theft. Even if, in the end, piracy equates to more sales for Jelsoft, that doesn't make those that pirate vB any less scum in my opinion. Pat yourself on the back for finally paying for vB all you want, you're still a common thief.

vB has a try it before purchase, it's call "Demo."

Even if they are common "theft" at least they manage to buy one, unlike those who has "pirated vB" for several years without getting caught.

We all stole something n.n

[MRGTB]

Originally Posted by Paul M

.... or tried a pirated version, got caught, and then bought it

Not sure if that was aimed at me with the wink smilie, if it was. No, I was never caught using a pirated version of vBulletin. As I only used it for about 2 weeks to see what I thought seeing as it was quite expensive to buy. And liked it so much, I bought it! In fact this is the second full license I've had now.

Originally Posted by SmashinYoungMan

I really can't swallow this "try it before you buy it" mentality where vB is concerned. vB isn't some newly released game, or unheard of band where you need to sample their product before you plunk down the dough at the store (an oft repeated excuse for pirating).

vB is pretty much the de facto standard when it comes to message board software these days. I very seriously doubt anyone who goes through the effort of finding a pirated version of vB, downloading, then installing it hasn't had at least a little experience with the software before as a poster.

No, they want what the "big boys" use, at no cost.

I don't doubt that many break down and pay for the license when they find that getting access to plugins and upgrades is a major pain, but that in no way excuses their initial theft. Even if, in the end, piracy equates to more sales for Jelsoft, that doesn't make those that pirate vB any less scum in my opinion. Pat yourself on the back for finally paying for vB all you want, you're still a common thief.

Very strong words there, which is fair enough. But, I'm presuming then you created all them images on your site yourself from scratch, if not, you got permission to use them all from the authors who created them on your site. :classic:

[PoetJA-1975]

Originally Posted by SmashinYoungMan

I really can't swallow this "try it before you buy it" mentality where vB is concerned. vB isn't some newly released game, or unheard of band where you need to sample their product before you plunk down the dough at the store (an oft repeated excuse for pirating).

vB is pretty much the de facto standard when it comes to message board software these days. I very seriously doubt anyone who goes through the effort of finding a pirated version of vB, downloading, then installing it hasn't had at least a little experience with the software before as a poster.

No, they want what the "big boys" use, at no cost.

I don't doubt that many break down and pay for the license when they find that getting access to plugins and upgrades is a major pain, but that in no way excuses their initial theft. Even if, in the end, piracy equates to more sales for Jelsoft, that doesn't make those that pirate vB any less scum in my opinion. Pat yourself on the back for finally paying for vB all you want, you're still a common thief.

A thief that can now testify to the fact that vBulletin IS in fact THE BEST forum software - I'm thinking perhaps I can get cut in on the profits being made from my recommendations... Anyway - very strong words from no-doubt the largest bigboy of the industry - but agree with me: a toy is just a toy and you like playing as well.

Blow it out the right side of your........ AdminCP

Jacquii.

[HowardS]

Hi All

Lots of opinions and lots of finger pointing etc. but to be sure none of us was ever born perfect and part of growing up is learning from our mistakes and choosing the straight or crooked path. I note many admit that their opinions have changed.

In an ideal world we would all have equal opportunities and good guidance from our peers but the world is not ideal and I give praise to anyone who makes a conscious personal effort to be more honest even if they have to do it by degrees.

Going from 100% warez to 100% legit for instance is unlikely to be an overnight option for many so encourage them in their efforts to make the change.

And if you want to have a site checked out then put in www.vbulletin.com/piracy because that's what the link is there for. It's not wrong to report possible dishonesty, in fact I would go as far as to say a person who starts with an attitude like that is just as likely to be the one who steps in when you mum is being mugged. It's all about attitude and leaving it to the next person is just a weak excuse.

[ZomgStuff]

Originally Posted by Gary Bolton

Not necessarily true, you'll be surprised how many people actually bought vBulletin because they tried a pirated version first. Liked it, and bought it.

I'm afraid to admit it, but I have the same story. I had a pirated board for quite some time and loved it. I decided it was absolutely necissary that I supported the developers and bought a license. It is well worth the money and I apologize that I pirated it in the first place.

Oh and for the record, I never got caught.

[Dismounted]

No need to bump an old thread, mate.

[PoetJA-1975]

Originally Posted by Dismounted

No need to bump an old thread, mate.

it's a worthy thread for the bumping IMHO

Jacquii.