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[Freesteyelz]

Originally Posted by Tralala

I'm speaking on behalf of myself. No anger in my "voice," just a lot of frustration. My intentions are pretty straightforward; I want to see JumpD's support threads undeleted.

Fair enough.

*The progression of any argument is largely dependent on the approach.

[Mr Chad]

Originally Posted by Boofo

Don't threaten us with your hacks, Chatburn, that isn't fair. :cross-eyed:

I'm not trying to threaten anyone, I just dont like all this fighting...

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

I'm not trying to be rude, and if you felt that way I apologize.

You caught that post before I deleted it; I deleted it because it didn't communicate my feelings properly.

Again, I am not offended, nor am I angry. I am frustrated and disappointed by the fact that a large amount of very helpful threads, a resource I came to depend on, was deleted quickly and without proper warning or notification. It certainly feels retaliatory, in the 5 short months here I haven't seen such swift action from the moderators.

Yes, it has been asked: Whats with JumpDs mods!

It was answered with the line that "it is vb.org policy."

In this thread I submitted that this policy is lame and hurts the overall community. To this, I received these responses:

Originally Posted by Boofo

And then you get threads wondering where the hack is and why there is no support. It's easier to remove it than get everyone all upset because someone is having a "day".

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT

Your suggestion will certainly be discussed amongst the staff.

The first is dismissive, the second, well, I guess it's something. And so I wait.

I just want the threads back, and feel like the users have gotten caught in the cross-fire of an childish game.

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by chatbum

I'm not trying to threaten anyone, I just dont like all this fighting...

I meant threaten us that you would release hacks here, sir. It was a joke. Sorry you missed it.

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT

If he wants to put the zip files back, we will restore the thread.

How can he put the zip files back if the thread is deleted?

[Freesteyelz]

The threads were moved in a "Recycle Bin" (hidden) forum or an equivalent of.

[Tralala]

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz

The threads were moved in a "Recycle Bin" (hidden) forum or an equivalent of.

Of course they were, I recognize that. If they were permanently deleted then my "voice" would come off a bit angrier.

I'm not concerned whether or not they "technically" can be undeleted. I'm aware that they were soft-deleted (or moved) are are easy to bring back.

I want them undeleted so the userbase can benefit from the thousands of helpful posts inside, and so this conflict doesn't continue to snowball out of control. If the mods acknowledge they made a knee-jerk mistake in deleting these threads so abruptly, I have a hunch that would go a long way towards ameliorating the problem we're facing here.

[Mr Chad]

Originally Posted by Boofo

I meant threaten us that you would release hacks here, sir. It was a joke. Sorry you missed it.

lol aww. :P

[pranism]

I have read a bit of what is going on, and while I have yet to contribute code to the community. I would like to try to understand why pulling code is going to help?

All that reminds me of is a little kid who does not get their way and picks up all their toys and goes home. I would expect such actions from my 5 year old yes but from adults or those who wish to have respect given to them?

There should have been a better way to get the ‘attention’ craved or needed, perhaps stop all support of your current hacks or offer support only for $ which seems to be the bottom line or unlined motive.

If it was about being noticed, I am sure this post I am making will get no attention due to I am nothing but a person who uses the scripts and have yet to release any making me as one coder so nicely called a ‘user’.

I think its time people grow up and try a more civil and mature way of resolving a conflict when they arise.

So far the only ones who will be hurt in this is the every day member such as myself and even if all the coders do leave that will leave room for those who have yet to release to release and get all popular till they crave the money over the community and have it all happen again in 2 years.

[hambil]

All that reminds me of is a little kid who does not get their way and picks up all their toys and goes home. I would expect such actions from my 5 year old yes but from adults or those who wish to have respect given to them?

Our code, contributed freely, is the only power we have. When negotiations break down, and nothing changes over a considerable amount of time, and coders are treated with disrespect by staff, what else is there to do?

There should have been a better way to get the ?attention? craved or needed, perhaps stop all support of your current hacks

That was my proposal. And yes, there should be a better way.

If it was about being noticed, I am sure this post I am making will get no attention due to I am nothing but a person who uses the scripts and have yet to release any making me as one coder so nicely called a ?user?.

It's not a question of whether we need users - of course we do. But this is a hack site. Without hacks it's just a site. The users will go where the free hacks are.

I think its time people grow up and try a more civil and mature way of resolving a conflict when they arise.

I agree.

So far the only ones who will be hurt in this is the every day member such as myself and even if all the coders do leave that will leave room for those who have yet to release to release and get all popular till they crave the money over the community and have it all happen again in 2 years.

Maybe. That's what many of the staff sure seems to think. vb.org is eternal! vb.org will live forever! We don't need you, we'll grow more.

A little arrogant if you ask me.