Is OOP overrated?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Lol ASM. I have been running mainframes where you had to enter the bootcode by manually programming the bootsequences with 16 switches. You would set each line of the bootstrap code by setting the correct switches out of the 16, then hit Start, then move to the next line, and continue until you programmed enough bootstrap code to make it read a punchtape/punchcards with the real software you wanted to run.

[Xenon]

i am not that old yet ^^

all i know are pcs ^^ (ok, and Amigs, but i don't count them in that context )

[Paul M]

Hmm, 6502 Assembler code on a BBC Micro, those were the days ....

As for OOP - vastly over-rated IMO

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by Xenon

JAVA is not a good example, it's so inefficient ^^

[high]* Xenon remembers of the good old times when oop wasn't yet planned and everything was done in ASM, there you have had to know what you do ^^[/high]

Respectfully, you must not have coded a lot in Java in order to say that. It's not the speediest language, but it's scalable and a hell of a lot more efficient in terms of structure and design than PHP.

[Xenon]

Actually i have coded a lot in JAVA, as i has had to do it at university.

and you are just prooving my point, it is much better in design and structure than php, yep, but i talk about efficiency.

Scriptlanguages like php, shouldn't use much OOP, OOP is more for design languages

[filburt1]

It is slower, but not inefficient. Its runtime architecture is fundamentally different from PHP. For that matter, PHP is an interpreted language whereas Java is compiled to byte code.

I long for the day when JSP is common on servers.

[Andreas]

I long for the day when JSP is common on servers.

Do you honestly think this will happen?

[Xenon]

@filburt: i don't compare JAVA with PHP on efficiency, but with C and C++

PHP is a scripting language which is interpreted, yes, and therefore has a totally different use than JAVA has. Java has it's own advantages, but it has it disadvantages as well, and you won't be able to change that.

Of course i would never code a real game in PHP, as this would be an inefficient language for that task.

All i said is that the new hype around oop is overrating it's strengthes. OOP has a lot of advantages of course, and for big projects it's really usefull, but that does not make it the non plus ultra a lot of people mean it to be.

[harmor19]

I think people write OOP for two reasons.

One is too use it effectively as I would say vbulletin does.

The other reason is just for the heck of it.
They just want to show clients some complicated code and make them believe you know what you're doing.

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by Andreas

Do you honestly think this will happen?

No, but I can still long.

Name three disadvantages OOP (not Java, C++, etc. specifically) has over a basic procedural language where everything is in a functional or global scope.