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#81
11-20-2005, 07:32 AM
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Yes, it appears that most taking part in the poll have either not read this thread or the angry orgers thread and are therefore voting based on some assumption that .org would suddenly become a selling and support centre for commercial scripts.
Alas, the longer the poll continues, the more people are going to be misunderstanding the point. |
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#82
11-20-2005, 09:13 AM
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As an undecided minority... I think 'Undecided' would have garnered more votes had it been called - Maybe which is more positive then Undecided - ie can't make up my mind
 Notable quotes ... Chris M wrote - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....7&postcount=11 "Paid hack section" implies a forum dedicated to the release of paid hacks - Paid hack directory implies a list of sites with paid modifications ---------- amykhar wrote - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....7&postcount=31 Coding is easy. Supporting mods is darn hard work. |
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#83
11-20-2005, 01:16 PM
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What I don't want to see is the value of this community working together on projects being taken advantage of for the commercial gain of few.
I think there should be a vbadvanced style directory listing of commercial scripts where users can comment on their experiences with the various available commercial products but I think that in order to be included in that directory, a commercial script must first be "deemed" or "approved" by moderator poll as commercial with regards to the following aspects: Does the script have it's own site? Do they offer support? Has the community contributed to the development of this script in anyway.... here is the kicker. Do not let overnight commercial entity's steal everyone's collaborative efforts for their own financial gains. This will discourage developers from posting their code at all which would really suck for the prosperity of the community as a whole. This site is the research and development lab of many of the coders with the commercial scripts that you now find. As for the directory, I agree it should be paid inclusion as an incentive to help benefit and encourage the .org staff provide better resources for us all and help to discourage the less significant modifications from going commercial. Now what is to be done about a script that has all the makings of a commercial script but was brewed here in the .org R&D lab? Aren't the original feedback contributors and bug fixers just as entitled to some of those revenue dollars as the person that decides to go commercial with the script? regardless of whether they started the release or not? - In the end, enforcing requirements and setting professional standards for the commercial crossover will help to keep everyone that currently releases for free from jumping on that commercial band wagon, but when you think about it, there isn't really anything wrong with the "commercial bandwagon". I would rather pay for the support of great hacks than get frustrated with unsupported free ones. If a coder is willing to offer support, they should justly have a means to be compensated for their time and offered the option to advertise that obligation that they are willing to make to this community here. Just a few more charcoals under the fire... sKiz |
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#84
11-20-2005, 01:52 PM
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no no no NO!
This will make coders very greedy and never make stuff for free. The forum is great because most the stuff is free and avalibable as long as you have vbulletin member area confimation! |
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#85
11-20-2005, 03:14 PM
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A commercial scripts section here in vb.org...
Wrong direction - I could imagine all the little "commercial scripts" that will be added. Next thing you know we will see individual styles (for sale) added to the section. All that is needed is a directory for business professionals to list their "business". I'd be happy with that alone. |
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#86
11-20-2005, 03:23 PM
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What I don't understand is how everyone can honestly think that adding another official site dedicated to commercial scripts would solve anything. I think coders are more likely to continue releasing and supporting free scripts if you keep everything consolidated into one site. By adding that additional site you're just creating more time consuming work for the coders who want to release both commercial and free scripts. I know I have a hard time keeping track of my own contributions on vB.org, and I can't even imagine trying to support my work across two different boards. I think most coders wanting to release commercial scripts would be more likely to ditch vB.org entirely and move on to releasing commercial scripts only on the new board. That's just my 2 cents anyways ...
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#87
11-21-2005, 11:31 AM
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Would have been interesting to see the percentages from site contributors 
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#88
11-21-2005, 11:44 AM
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I would suggest no. Simply because the users of vB already pay for this great forum, now they should be expected to pay for modifications for it as well.
Honestly, it would deter me from returning here and would cause me to look elsewhere. I would suggest if those that are interested in a "pay to play plan", start your own site for this. Why break it if it ain't broke? |
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#89
11-21-2005, 12:02 PM
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Maybe we should try to organise such a poll, on a different site if the vBorg staff can't be bothered to setup a forum only coders could access for this purpose. The coders that couldn't be bothered to join and vote, aren't active enough and as such recant (or however you spell it) their right to have a say.
Might be too much hassle just to figure out what the coders think, but meh. It's a suggestion. |
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#90
11-21-2005, 12:38 PM
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I think its most likely too much work all around
Points been made. Its not 'a small fringe want the information' its actually quite a huge percentage. Couple that with my guesstimate that 80% of site contributors are for it, I think that says everything  While I respect the opinions of those that do not contribute to .org, those that do contribute carry more weight with me in matters like this. I think the polls now dead seeing that most voters seem to have skipped reading the relevant threads about the poll. Fun while it lasted 
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