So, ultimately you do not envision independently developed commercial products being downloaded directly from this or an alternative Jelsoft supported site?
So, ultimately you do not envision commercial products being downloaded from this or an alternative Jelsoft supported site?
At this time I do not. There is no infrastructure to support such a thing. I do envision bringing awareness to commercial endeavors to our customers. If there was the infrastructure for a commercial marketplace, it might be a different story. Such a marketplace would require much more rigorous controls on commercial addons than can be implemented at this time.
A certification program would be a PLUS in my book. :up: I'll be the first to sign-up.
A listing to providers site is all that is needed.
If adding products were allowed, people would just create anything to direct more hits to their site/service/products.
Yep, the listing should include all aspects of running a vb site. Although, I question allowing 'hosting companies' as I can see a flood of 'hosting companies trying to get listed just for the sake of it.
I believe an external site would be a great solution -- the goal (I think) is to provide solutions for customers in a informative way. Adding this option here will just confuse and make things harder for the customer to find what they want in a efficient manner.
If you read the other thread, I bought the domain name vbulletincoders.com. Which would be a directory listing on third-party sites offering paid and/or commercial hacks to the members of vb.org. I emailed vbulletin if the use of vbulletin in the domain was allowed, and this was the response:
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Dear Danny
Thank you for your e-mail.
For obvious reasons, the use of vBulletin (the word) is a sensitive issue. First and foremost, it is our trademarked product name, so any use of vBulletin (the name) is prohibited. However, there are some exceptions where we have agreed to allow the use of vBulletin (the name) such as vbulletin-fans you have identified.
That said, it appears that the role of vb.org needs to be clarified and I will look into this.
I trust that this is in order, but please let me know if you have any further queries.
So, I really didn't get any of my questions directly answered. I also asked if I weren't allowed to run such a site with the mentioned domain name, why were others allowed? (ie. Floris and www.vbulletin-fans.com)
That wasn't answered either. So, I'm quite dissapointed in the response..
So, I really didn't get any of my questions directly answered. I also asked if I weren't allowed to run such a site with the mentioned domain name, why were others allowed? (ie. Floris and www.vbulletin-fans.com)
That wasn't answered either. So, I'm quite dissapointed in the response..
I was given EXACTLY the same response re: vbulletintoolbox.com and vbulletinhandyman.com.
Quite disheartening then to see all the other vbulletin*.com sites that are allowed to flourish (and get onto the BOTM).
And no, "vBulletin" trademark is being requested at this time; and no I do not remember/believe he asked permission - but that is not a public discussion, please contact sales [at] vbulletin.com in regards to using "vBulletin" in the domain for a commercial site.
Now I am really confused....would Jelsoft lie to it's customers?
Maybe it's more a case of 'Although he posts as if he does, Floris doesn't actually know everything that is going on'?
That post annoyed me too, because it was Floris that gave me the impression that 'non-commericial' uses of the domain name (like he was doing) were acceptable...so I registered the domains, then was told that it was not.
getting back the vb certified thing, maybe a small fee to become ceritifed would be a good idea which would help fund the program and the team that moderate it. it would probably also deter those who really would not be qualified and would waste the moderator/certifiers time. now this certification could apply to developers, vendors, hosts, and softwares. here are some ideas
everytime a software is upgraded it must be resubmitted for certification. a developer/vendor/host would have an annual or periodical certification to make sure they are up to date and following vbulletin's guidelines and standards. if they fail to pass the certification the person's/software's certification is removed. also if a provider is certified they could maybe have access to customer emails such as vb.org to verify purchases and prevent unlicensed people from downloading their software. this of course is up to jelsoft and their team.
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