Hacks should be released in ONE ZIP file please

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by KirbyDE

Erwin already gave the answer, so please read his post.

Wayne already answered as well, so please read his post.

[Christine]

Hi tamarian,

As another long time (but in and out per work demands) member, I think it is safe to say that we both have seen changes -- to both sites.

I also think that it is fair to say that these changes have benefited the community in the long run thanks to Wayne's oversight.

While I appreciate your concerns about the recent decisions, I think that we need to let Erwin, Stefan, Brad, and their teams have some room to manuever here.

If they have a streamlined design that will make managing this place easier for the mods here (a key concept to ALL of us), that has at its core a one-file-per-hack limit, then what skin is it off any of our collective backs to abide by that?

I thought the members of one of the sites I run fighting over 'thread preview' was inane, but quite honestly, this argument ranks almost as high.

I will do this. I will offer to become the unofficial 'vb.org' zip queen. I will invite myself to a vb.org-specific gmail account and set up instant notification. Anyone who does not have access to a .zip compressor -- email me the files and I will zip them up and return them to you with a smile.

I am serious about that -- for anyone who would like the assistance. Just let me know.

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by Christine

Anyone who does not have access to a .zip compressor -- email me the files and I will zip them up and return them to you with a smile.

If the problem was zip files, I'd say that solves the problem.

For those of uss who do not appreciate being considered pirates and malicious hackers/exploiters, it doesn't.

[Christine]

Hi tamarian,

Where was the indication that you [or any of us] were "pirates and [or] malicious hackers/exploiters"?

All I am seeing here is the admins trying to enforce a restriction to help moderate the forum.

I am not looking for a fight (not my style) -- it is just the admin in me that leans to defaulting to the mods here as I trust that they will do what is in the best interest of the community (and that trust based on the last few years of watching them in action)

Out of curiosity -- what would you suggest they do differently?

[COBRAws]

Damn, most of you act like old ladies! Me, as an end user, and *starter* coder love to have hacks zipped in just one file. Its tidy, simple, and you dont have to worry about how many files does that hack contain. Just one zip file, and no worries.

great rule, cya

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by Christine

Where was the indication that you [or any of us] were "pirates and [or] malicious hackers/exploiters"?

You haven't been checkign the feedback forum lately

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91039
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91392

Plus the "cannot diclose the reason" why you have to zip even a single txt file in this thread, or bandiwdth reasons, or employer reasons... And a couple of other recent incidents.

All I am seeing here is the admins trying to enforce a restriction to help moderate the forum.

That would have not been objectionable at all. Why would things that would "help moderate" the forum be such a top secret?

I am not looking for a fight (not my style) -- it is just the admin in me that leans to defaulting to the mods here as I trust that they will do what is in the best interest of the community (and that trust based on the last few years of watching them in action)

We're all admins here, and I assume we all want to build a better community. If you haven't noticed, most of the original vb.org mods, admins and founders are gone, and no longer here. That's not the issue. The issue is that changes should be for the best, and secrecy, hidden agnedas and excessive authoritative unjustifiable demands that don't make sense are not always for the best of any community.

Out of curiosity -- what would you suggest they do differently?

About what?

Bandwidth is already compreseed on vb.org using gzip. There's nothing to do.

About transperancy and communication? As stated here and in other threads, transperancy, announcements prior to major changes, not after, and none, or less, of this "stop the discussion" "read the post" "we can't tell you why you must do this"... etc.

[Tony G]

That would have not been objectionable at all. Why would things that would "help moderate" the forum be such a top secret?

So are you saying that because we're not giving away all the reasons for the rule to the community that this rule is ineffective?

You don't even know what those reasons are, yet you come to the conclusion that they don't help the community at all, or to moderare it. You can judge that if you knew, otherwise you simply have no grounds to judge this rule on.

[calorie]

You don't even know what those reasons are, yet you come to the conclusion that they don't help the community at all, or to moderare it. You can judge that if you knew, otherwise you simply have no grounds judge this rule on.

While I agree that zip is a trivial issue, this thread is titled "Hacks should be released in ONE ZIP file please" and so I was like okay, TPTB asked nicely so I will try to comply, but then I went to attach a puny text file in a post, and it was then that I noticed, that while the zip request is for hacks, it is now forced, even for posts. If you combine that type of action with posts like the one quoted herein, and with certain posts in the threads referenced above, it seems there is more of an us versus them mentality nowadays and certain posts only instigate further separation. Nothing personal to anyone, but it just doesn't feel as friendly and open around here anymore. Hopefully things will change for the better.

[Tony G]

Well maybe something can be done so that the attachment restrictions only apply to the first post in hack threads, but you can image that might be a bit of work.

Originally Posted by calorie

but it just doesn't feel as friendly and open around here anymore.

I'm really sorry that you feel like that. I hope it changes for you, too.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Tony G

You don't even know what those reasons are, yet you come to the conclusion that they don't help the community at all

That seems to be the problem - no one except the chosen few knows, because you aren't saying.