vB Designers extincted!

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by msimplay

true about nice clean designes when i came to vbulletin a year back i was all for flashy designs and i even have a flashy one myself
i converted myself from a free vb2 skin

however the point is i am quickly realising if i have a scope for my site in terms of getting larger eventually i will have to cut back on graphic designs and do more color designs
conserving bandwidth / serverload etc

i have noticed myself that the larger sites have good designs but are not graphic heavy

my new vb3 > * :\

that's all that matters.

[rebelsrock06]

Originally Posted by vbmechanic

Hey Pank, how's your new Porsche? I'm running out of garage room, I'll probably have to buy a new house soon with something more than this pitiful 6-car garage.. This house just doesn't go with my Enzo.

LOL LOL LOL

I know, i mean COME ON we are raking in the dough LOL


( To bad its not enough for much of anything unless you have a HUGE clientel and have sold tons of the styles )

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

my new vb3 > * :\

that's all that matters.

graphic heavy ?

i was talking about forums with posts in their millions and users in their thousands

http://www.avsforum.com/

[sabret00the]

nope it's not graphic heavy, i'm not a fan of graphic heavy skins

[13th_Disciple]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

nope it's not graphic heavy, i'm not a fan of graphic heavy skins

it's also not your place to say what is and what isn't right for everyone else.. if they choose a graphics heavy skin, it is of their own accord.. if you don't, that is of your own accord.. but saying people get charged too much, and then seeing what these cats have to go through on a daily basis, you wouldn't do it that cheap yourself..

having your own business often requires a ton of "free" goodies that are extras that are thrown in for either customer satisfaction, or to show that one will go the extra mile to keep their customers happy.. having said that, it's also fairly obvious that you have never run a business, been involved with the back office part of a business, or had to negotiate terms to help a business get awarded a job or multiple jobs.. and until you know what all of that is like, including customer satisfaction, i would think it in your own best interest to not worry about how much someone does or doesn't get paid for a job they do.. because you have no clue what that person has had to endure just to get the gig.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple

it's also not your place to say what is and what isn't right for everyone else.. if they choose a graphics heavy skin, it is of their own accord.. if you don't, that is of your own accord.. but saying people get charged too much, and then seeing what these cats have to go through on a daily basis, you wouldn't do it that cheap yourself..

having your own business often requires a ton of "free" goodies that are extras that are thrown in for either customer satisfaction, or to show that one will go the extra mile to keep their customers happy.. having said that, it's also fairly obvious that you have never run a business, been involved with the back office part of a business, or had to negotiate terms to help a business get awarded a job or multiple jobs.. and until you know what all of that is like, including customer satisfaction, i would think it in your own best interest to not worry about how much someone does or doesn't get paid for a job they do.. because you have no clue what that person has had to endure just to get the gig.

what u on about he never said anything about forcing his opinion on anyone else :ermm:

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple

it's also not your place to say what is and what isn't right for everyone else.. if they choose a graphics heavy skin, it is of their own accord.. if you don't, that is of your own accord.. but saying people get charged too much, and then seeing what these cats have to go through on a daily basis, you wouldn't do it that cheap yourself..

having your own business often requires a ton of "free" goodies that are extras that are thrown in for either customer satisfaction, or to show that one will go the extra mile to keep their customers happy.. having said that, it's also fairly obvious that you have never run a business, been involved with the back office part of a business, or had to negotiate terms to help a business get awarded a job or multiple jobs.. and until you know what all of that is like, including customer satisfaction, i would think it in your own best interest to not worry about how much someone does or doesn't get paid for a job they do.. because you have no clue what that person has had to endure just to get the gig.

why do you have such a hard on when it comes to my posts? honestly, please just answer me this, as it's not the first time you've full blown orgasmed in my face with whatever is shoved up your arse? you have no idea who i am or what i do for a living, if you honestly feel that as 23 i'm flipping burgers or slaving away for someone else then so be it, but come on, please don't publicise those assumptions as facts, fact of the matter if, you're a sad twat, i am allowed to have an opinion, whether you like it or not, so please in future, just ++++ off and grow up.

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by msimplay

what u on about he never said anything about forcing his opinion on anyone else :ermm:

thanks for clearing that up, after reading his post, i was starting to get confused

[13th_Disciple]

actually, i am not on about anything.. nor am i trying to follow you around and comment on your posts.. but saying someone charges too much or stating you wouldn't pay for something is not even remotely related to this thread.. it's about the fact there are so few publicly known vb based designers that folks know they can trust and depend on to get work done.. i have also made no assumptions based on your age or anything else.. i assume at the age of 23 you are either in college or have begun a career track.. what i was pointing out is that it is not your decision or your choice as to what or why people charge what they do for the services, or lack there of, that they offer..

now, as far as me f'ing off, be glad to.. but as you said, my opinion is unto me as your is unto you.. i am just tired of seeing several people bad mouth, or talk down to others around here and injecting there opinions in something that does not firectly relate to anything about remotely reagrding the topic, the work, the existence of the thread or anything else.. it is not promoting the usefulness of the thread and only goes to counteract the exact reason for the thread.. vb designers are needed as are more developers of custom work.. the money they charge is strictly between themselves and the customer..

as for your responses to the threads themselves, i could careless.. i just think more people should consider what they say, why they say it, and who they are saying it to.. a little consideration goes a very long way..

[C.Birch]

why is it a small number of people have to start swearing and that in a topic like this, is there any real need for it?