Vb.org and there attitude to Lockdown hack

[lasto]

I noticed ages ago that the lockdown hack was`nt allowed to be discussed on vb.org cause of one reason or another.
Now ive just seen this post and the same reply has come back.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=61992

Now i dont think its up to vb.org to make rules like this on what hack can be posted here and what cant.The way i see it if people need a hack for one purpose or another then most people jump at the chance to help them so why the attitude to the Lockdown hack.

Let me guess is its cause its used by Boards to hide details until someone replies to a post to reveal the details.Or maybe thats its a hack thats usually used on pirated Boards ???

I honestly dont see why vb.org has this sort of stance on this hack and i thought this board was here for the MEMBERS not the views of the staff running it.

As a hack it has its usefulness and can be used for a multitude of things but for vb.org to claim it is not even allowed to be discussed is beyond a joke as end of day this is a hackers board and all hacks can be requested here so why are we being told what we can in effect ask for ???

End of day its US who pay our license fee to access hacks on this board so i feel that we as members should have that choice in what we do and dont want.

Aint bothered if post is closed but its a point worth noting.

[Brad]

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=23500" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=23500</a>

[Logician]

Jelsoft is very sensitive about their software not to be used in illegal sites. So they are also sensitive about hacks that can make things easier for an illegal site and as you can see the comments in the mentioned thread comes from directly a vb team member, not vb.org staff.

Frankly speaking I partially agree you and I believe that lock down hack can have some legitimate benefits for legitimate forums as well. But I also believe that if Jelsoft feels the other way, then we have to respect their opinion.

[colicab-d]

i have to agree, as access to the hacks on this site are for licensed members only..sooo, i know theres a few of us who arent v.honest but there not just interested in the lock down hack either......

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by Logician

Frankly speaking I partially agree you and I believe that lock down hack can have some legitimate benefits for legitimate forums as well. But I also believe that if Jelsoft feels the other way, then we have to respect their opinion.

i'd go with that right there!

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Logician

Jelsoft is very sensitive about their software not to be used in illegal sites. So they are also sensitive about hacks that can make things easier for an illegal site and as you can see the comments in the mentioned thread comes from directly a vb team member, not vb.org staff.

Frankly speaking I partially agree you and I believe that lock down hack can have some legitimate benefits for legitimate forums as well. But I also believe that if Jelsoft feels the other way, then we have to respect their opinion.

Good reply Logician.

I aint made this post for the sake of causing arguments but cause theres a prinicple involved here.Jelsoft say we cant discuss such a hack cause they dont like to make hacks that benefit or make it easier for an illegal site but does`nt that include every hack on vb.org as every hack is a benefit to a board whether it is legit or illegal.

Also lockdown hack is just an updated version to the Hide hide which is available for most over board formats such as invision and Phbb so why not Vbull and why is vbull stance on it so hard?

[Logician]

Originally Posted by lasto

why is vbull stance on it so hard?

I can't speak for them. But I believe that this hack might have been abused by some wares site in the past so it should have been damned. (When I read the referred thread, I get some hints on this). I also know that Jelsoft's stance on illegal sites are much harsher than other forum software developers so this might be one reason too.

[filburt1]

*shrug* It's officially Jelsoft's site. We're just enforcing their rules for the most part. If you have questions about a Jelsoft-made rule, I would e-mail contact@vbulletin.com instead of asking here because we don't know much more about it than you.

Also lockdown hack is just an updated version to the Hide hide which is available for most over board formats such as invision and Phbb so why not Vbull and why is vbull stance on it so hard?

phpBB and Invision do not have to worry about piracy given that their products are free (except now in the case of Invision).

[Dean C]

This rule was in fact not created by any of the current staff but a Jelsoft representative. It could have it's uses but that's a sacrifice to take

[ap0c]

just for the sake of discussion and the fact I'm stuck on a coding problem, what's the difference between the lockdown hack and the hack that allows admins or others to read members pms? Both could be used for the wrong reasons.