Private Forum for More Experienced Hackers?

[xxxsaint]

the best I can remember , when I released 'LeSane's Store Add-on for VB Quiz ' there was a place to say either " yes I will provide support for this hack " or " the hacker cannot garuntee support for this hack " right ? There ya go , problem solved.

I voted no as it sounds too ' elitist ' for my personal tastes. I've only released 1 hack and was basically the testor for it with LeSane doing the hard coding but I help whoever I can whenever I see a problem that I know the answer to. If you don't want to give support - then just don't give support.

[pattox]

I dont see the benefit of it!

[feldon23]

What about people with a good programming mindset and programming practices who are still learning PHP/MySQL?

My problem is, I try to research my question before asking it, and I try to ask conceptual questions (What is the best method to do this?) rather than procedural questions (what's chmod() do?!). But it is hard to be heard in a sea of the folks with the FLP (free lunch philosophy).

People learn a few lines of PHP and don't use the search engine, they just hit Post. Or they won't even try to search the PHP manual or thru the vBulletin files to find the function they need before posting.

On PHPBuilder.com, we've had these losers get downright abusive towards forum moderators/helpers for suggesting they use the search engine and look at the PHP manual before posting stuff like "how do I write a file?".

[Brad]

I think the idea could work if a set of rules where put out. Mabey a system like the mod application where people could send in a application to be invited to the forum. The person would have to show that they know the inner workings or vB, php, and mySQL. Show some of their work (be it a released hack or their site), and would have to prove they wrote the code.

Im all for it, as long as it dosent turn into a private place where people can flame posters like ubbdev's mod forum (i know a mod over there, there is some nasty stuff in that forum about me. They call me a walking billbord for vB cause i answered a question a guy asked about php.mySQL forums and dident say "oo get ubbthreads....enof about that).

[Dean C]

An application system would mean even more work for the mods here

[Boofo]

I vote "NO" because we were all newbies once and we all asked the dumb questions a time or two, some even more. We tend to forget that at times. That's how a newbie becomes knowledgeable. The support here used to be the best, but it has gone downhill here lately (apart from a very few who still enjoy sharing their knowledge). We used to all learn from one another. Now no one seems to have the [high]time[/high] to help anyone out. Just my 3 1/2 cents worth.

[Dean C]

I agree there Boofo. Hopefully business will resume once vb3 is out .

- miSt

[amykhar]

Boofo, I guess my thought is that so many of the people here anymore aren't hackers. They are copy and pasters who simply use the work of others. Combine that with a belligerant attitude that the hackers OWE them something and their absolute refusal to read threads or use a search engine and I think you will understand why the people who can help get absolutely fed up and don't want to deal with it anymore.

I understand totally that a private forum here is not something that fits with this place's mission. However, I believe there is a market for somebody else to create another hacking board somewhere that caters to the developers and not the masses.

Amy

[shad-gt]

hi,
i think it would be better to create on board for hacks without support for experienced Users. But a districted board.. no. Iam experienced with php but, ive not the time to write many hacks. But i have no problem to take a hack without instructions in my board.

A copy&paste user cannot add a hack without further instruction. That would be a save against leechers. But the biggest problem, how to find experienced peoples?

Sorry for that bad english, its not my native language. And im tiered, and in 5 hours i must go to scool. I need sleep now! Good night.

[twoseven]

i will abstain from voting (i'm elitest but i wouldnt fall into the catagory yet that i'd like to be at to see the private forum) but anyhow what if all could see the advanced things discussed to follow the flow of the code or what is going on but only people in said usergroup could post their items. how you get into that usergroup could be determined later (like vb,php,mysql quiz online or application) just my thoughts.