The ultimate RPG Hack(including battle)

[Aerith_Freak]

Ok my opinion here is probably going to make absolutely no sense what-so-ever but anyway.

Afterlab and the others who already have their own battle systems and won't release them. The way you just come over and convey yourselves here as self-centered brats has really wound me up.

Your all like, oh no someone's releasing a battle hack it's gonna mean the end of my community. And the whole, people shouldn't rely on others to make hacks for them attitude.

Well I'm sorry if I don't follow your, "I'm God and you should do what I say regeme." but if you care to remember there are people out there who DON'T understand PHP, who DON'T know vB inside it.

These people crave to have something like a battle system, it's something they dream of.. but they don't know how to do it. You guys being so protective over your frickin' things just makes matters worse, it's like your treating them as animals.

So sorry to tear you out of your own little bubbles but the people like zajako should be praised. They actually make an effort to make the common folk happy.

And for all you over-protective tech junkies... shame on you.

Zajako I think what your doing is brilliant and you have certainly earned my respect for it.

And Afterlab sorry for using you as a direct example but your the only admin I can think of who had a successful battle system (please your name is so easy to remember ).

Hopefully this all made sense and didn't come accross as some ofensive slang ball........ knowing me I probably misread the thread..

Also zajako I have something that you may want to add to your hack. If your interested e-mail me or contact me or something. This hack is gonna be good. *thumbs up*

[afterlab]

There are actually tons of people working on this, but they don't post a thread in here to advertise their hack.

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word^ sounds like me... except mines probably not taking so much attraction away from the actual board...........

[g-force2k2]

Originally posted by neo

I would give up friend of mine. My system has something very very special to it that yours wont Unless you would like to colaberate on the project together

i dunno neo i have plenty of ideas of my own just trying to do a one armed job ain't easy but the stuff im thinking... i dunno just might blow the competition away then again dun know what you're thinking either

g-force2k2

[MrLister]

Well I'd say there are at least 5 out there that are complete. Afterlab, I have one (it's differnet though, support multiple user battles, items use turns and a few more things, based on diablo and final fantasy), there are two more that i've seen on other boards and i'm presuming there's at least 1 more out there. I think the reason why people don't want to release it is because they put in countless days, weeks, some months making this and just posting it to the public so that most other sites are identical to their own is probably not what they want. I know one may argue it's the community that counts but if that were true we'd all be on linux, not windows.

Each battle system that I've seen is different in it's own way so even if afterlab does release it, it would not affect me for example nor the other sites I've seen because they're all unique. It would only make further requests such as lesane's store hack. Great hack, i don't personally use it but almost every 10th thread has, can you make it work with the store hack.

All in all, a battle system is great however I still don't think that it is fair for users to just go around browse at different board. say "i want this and i want this and i want this" post it here and then after 4 months of asking, requesting some hacker decides to go for it for recognition.

It was a unique idea, that took a LOT of time to think up off and code. There are reasons why most aren't releasing it.

[heretic]

Originally posted by afterlab
There are actually tons of people working on this, but they don't post a thread in here to advertise their hack.

*nods*


To be honest, I think should a RPG hack be released, give it a standard fight, exp, and stuff.

leave the more advanced things to the unique sites, like FFrepublic.

if the users that want it free want to have more, then they will have to do the grunt work themselves.

this in turn leaves the more advanced sites with something unique, and dare I say it, better.

But I see this turning more from people saying they were going to do it and not, to others demanding that it be made... I think it's a bad turn...

[DestyNova]

Mrlister and heretic

well, I dont know about others but I never request anything from AfterLab or Neo, I aint care if they do release or not, last thing I want to do is complain or bother them about release it..

But I do care about zajako and his hack cuz he decide to get up from chair and do something for us, people who needs that complex RPG for our forum. Is it bad idea? I would say no cuz zajako is here to provide to meet our needs for our forum nothing more than that. Afterlab and Neo themselves made that decision then it is ok with me. If Afterlab or Neo change their mind and decide to not release it, again it s fine with me, I respect whatever they think better but since this thread is about zajako's hack after all so I aint mind.

AND zajako himself decide to make the hack so why we have to stop him? And I d like to have that hack from zajako, he never ask anything like recognition...

[MrLister]

Heretec: I agree completly! This is much better then going out and duplicating the features of those that spent months comping up with them just so they can be copied and released to thousands of users.

I'm not bugging anybody about releasing it it's just that some people spent months thinking up of this and put a lot of time into it. then a user just wanders in, says i want that and gets it. basically the users here, want to have the best features and all they have to do is post it and then spend 5 minutes installing it and poof they have the same feature as the next websit that spent months making it.

I'm not saying stop zajako or stop anybody. I"m just saying that it's not fair to make a hack based on a different website who spent months making it. If you want a rpg hack you should do a request and explain in detail w/ unique ideas. not just go to ffrepublic.com for example and say "i want that" and then somebody goes off and duplicates it w/o the permission of the original programmer.

Good ideas take a long time to think off. Imagine how long it took to think of a RPG Battle system.... Why should everybody have access to identical features w/o the permission of the original programmer. I don't see any other windows programs that have identical features to microsoft windows and just look a bit different. i'm not saying rpg battle system is copyright but at least respect the time the initial programmer took to think up of it.

Also you mentioned meeting needs. What about the needs of the programmer who made it in the first place. The one that spent months making it? If somebody duplicated his best feature and releases it to a few thousand websites... Does that fullfil his needs. Also this is vBulletin, which is a forum. The only needs should be upgrades to it. Why are people expecting and asking for entire battle systems (complete game) and so forth. Why do you make it your need to get a entire game, website and forum out of something that's just a forum?

[DestyNova]

MrLister

True, I do agree with you but if zajako decide to not release it cuz of "original" then I can do nothing about it.

But MrLister, I m sure that zajako have several features at his OWN board that he WILL not provide or add to his hack for us to keep his board "original" as possible as Afterlab plans to do. So that will be always different and original no matter what we get these hacks from them then why concern about it?

Also this vb.org is for share the hacks or whatever provide anyone's request or needs, if they dont want to share any kind of "original" hack then why did they advertise about it at here? As what Firefly said, he have some more hacks that he made but didnt advertise about it at here, that which I respect him even more.

[MrLister]

DestyNova: Exactly, but my main concern is not on just this one hack. If this is released and it features everything from other battle systems do you really think that initial programmer will continue to think of great ideas and program them.

Do you think that any programmer will spend weeks and months thinking of new ideas or will most of them sit back and wait for somebody to release it so they can copy it. Just as Firefly I don't publish my website here because if I was there would be another bunch of requests that would get fulfilled and then i would have a few thousand sites looking a bit different with identical features.

Afterlab for example. In my oppinion he made a mistake publishing ffrepublic.com . He gained maybe one or two honest members but 99% of the visitors that come from here are just interested in seeing if they can get somebody to reproduce identical features so their site could also be "cool" and "full of features." Basically he announced his site on vB forums and all he got was a lot of posts in the request forum to duplicate some features. I'm not speaking for him but i'm just saying what i think may be.