vbCMS big sites??

[SilverBoy]

I know they are
They don't know which plugin do this issue, but in debug mode my front page of my CMS has more than 700 queries !!

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The load a lot of time be very high, and get increase more and more till the server crash!!

[Mark.B]

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by SilverBoy

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

I've had more clients and myself on their behalf in tickets systems told this by Hosts from all over the world, all I can say is wow 700 queries makes what they say sound legitimate and you should definitely address that HOWEVER 99.9% of the time when a host says it's "the script" it's "the plugins" it isn't! That is just the only scapegoat they have because they don't have an answer to your current issue plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Mark.B

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!

[AndrewSimm]

Originally Posted by SilverBoy

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

The thing I would recommend is shortening that main page. You have a lot of images loading that users will likely not scroll down to. Also a lot of those image are larger than what is needed. If you indeed have 700 queries then as others have mentioned that needs to be reduced.

[Brandon Sheley]

Originally Posted by Paul M

You should sort your server issues out, that will be a lot simpler than trying to convert to WP.

I agree with Paul but..
I would also strongly lean towards having my articles in the, for lack of better words, google friendly CMS being wordpress over vbulletins.
You'll get much better results in my opinion building traffic using wordpress and there are bridges or should be at least for vb - wp.

[Mark.B]

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!

That's as maybe but the host couldn't actually pinpoint that, so I'd still go with "they're making it up as they go along".

The vast majority of hosts really don't have a clue and certainly don't want any of the more intensive scripts like forums running on their servers. Give them some static html pages, they can just about handle that.

Trouble is, even today, people are happy to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars / pounds / whatever on their software, then try to squeeze it on a cheap and nasty host. It never ends well.

[Brandon Sheley]

Originally Posted by SilverBoy

I know, but when I investigated the server load issue, the host company guy said there is a problem in my plugins!!

Did you see my CMS Paul? we made a lot of plugins to make it more professional, and I think there is a problem in one or some of them, but unfortunately we couldn't catch it yet !!

Here is my site www.manshor.net

The home page took a whole 60 second to load, you can see exactly what's slowing it down by right clicking and view elements.
There are more issues with your site other then that home page though. Good luck

[SilverBoy]

Originally Posted by Mark.B

So, they insist the server load is down to 'a problem with your plugins', but when you ask them which problem on which plugin, they don't know?

Time for a new host.

Actually we made a lot of plugins specially for vBCMS, and when we deactivate the CMS and all related plugins that we made (allow only forum and other plugins) the load is OK !!

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Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

I've had more clients and myself on their behalf in tickets systems told this by Hosts from all over the world, all I can say is wow 700 queries makes what they say sound legitimate and you should definitely address that HOWEVER 99.9% of the time when a host says it's "the script" it's "the plugins" it isn't! That is just the only scapegoat they have because they don't have an answer to your current issue plain and simple.



Usually I'd say yes but he did just tell us that in debug mode there are over 700 queries on his cms page this may just be the 0.01% lol!

The point here is that, sometimes whoisonline page didn't show any one at homepage and the users spread on other pages (CMS + Forum), but again the debug mode shows that the article page have 100+ queries !!

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Case study

Go to this link
http://www.manshor.net/forum/content...AF%D8%A7%D8%B9

All widget that we have here are last articles widget with modified template only, but the debug says this ..

Page Generation 7.66470 seconds Memory Usage 42,341KB Queries Executed 909 (?)

Is there problem in the widget it self??

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Originally Posted by AndrewSimm

The thing I would recommend is shortening that main page. You have a lot of images loading that users will likely not scroll down to. Also a lot of those image are larger than what is needed. If you indeed have 700 queries then as others have mentioned that needs to be reduced.

The question is how reduce the queries??

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Originally Posted by Brandon Sheley

I agree with Paul but..
I would also strongly lean towards having my articles in the, for lack of better words, google friendly CMS being wordpress over vbulletins.
You'll get much better results in my opinion building traffic using wordpress and there are bridges or should be at least for vb - wp.

I'm really considering moving to WP!!

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Originally Posted by Brandon Sheley

The home page took a whole 60 second to load, you can see exactly what's slowing it down by right clicking and view elements.
There are more issues with your site other then that home page though. Good luck

Soory Brandon could you please explain in more details how I can see exactly which element slowing down my page?
Thanks.