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Old 04-11-2002, 01:53 AM
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I like this idea, I voted option two... Primarily because most older members aren't the ones posting the repeats etc. It is the newer members who aren't familiar with the vbulletin hacking and are unsure of what it means. (They think posting javascript or template modifications are 'hacks')
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Old 04-11-2002, 07:32 AM
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Ya know, I voted for Yes, but after reading this thread completely, I want to change my vote to NO.

Here's my reasoning:

a) it is going to take a lot of ork to decide what is the same hack, and hat is a variation on the hack.

b) What I think is really needed is a different kind of moderation: strong leadership. Hold people to a higher standard. Insist that the hack be original, that it be bug checked, etc before it is posted. Delete the threads (or lock the threads) that don't comply. Be hard-asses.

I rarely visit the hack board because it is hard to find hat you are looking for. And often a hack gets released and then 35 pages later all the bugs are worked out. By then, the hacker doesn't ever want to see that thread again, and I (or someone else) needs help with the hack... frustrating.

Anyway, I say: be hard-asses and enforce a higher standard of ediquitte in that forum. (sp?)
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Old 04-11-2002, 07:46 AM
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yes. we all see several hacks here "re-released" for a newer vB version. in my humble oppinion, there are alot of people who dont search properly the forum to see if the hack was released.

the way i see it me is this:
i search for the hack. i find it but is old. i check the code and make the new mods. i reply to the thread with the update.

anyway, if the forum is moderated, i wonder if the mods or the admins will be able to cover it all. i didnt see bira here for a verrrrrry long time. that puts on the spot PPN, by himself to do it all. of course, firefly will be here also. but i still wonder if 2 active people should be enough to moderate the forum. let me know what you think. thanks.
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Old 04-11-2002, 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Evoir
it is going to take a lot of ork to decide what is the same hack, and hat is a variation on the hack.

I rarely visit the hack board because it is hard to find hat you are looking for. And often a hack gets released and then 35 pages later all the bugs are worked out. By then, the hacker doesn't ever want to see that thread again, and I (or someone else) needs help with the hack... frustrating.
i doubt it. i'm sure that a mod can see in 2seconds if the code is valid or not. an example: quick reply box (by firefly). when he released the code, there was another similar hack. but after looking at the code, i realised that the first hack had half the options (and code) firefly wrote (the box will show only if ur logged in, for example).

about the 2nd phrase, you should use the search properly. i always find a hack, righaway.. using the search engine.
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Old 04-11-2002, 09:42 AM
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nafae: you have a virus, I just got 2 emails from you with a virus in each.

Evoir: I took a vote off Yes and added one to No.
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Old 04-11-2002, 07:13 PM
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mhmm - I hope my english gets better from post to post.

And I know that I'm making a President nervous

But I don't give up, because I like to give hints to you.

If you like, you may change a Yes to the middle for me. Optimal with one more hack: Moderate new threads if user has less then 3 hacks.

The because: On our board exists a forum where users may post tips for other users, but there should be no thread starting with a question (like "I need a tip"). Questions about a tip are allowed in the same thread. First we decided to moderate this forum, but we give up, it's too much work (only 10-30 new posts to moderate per day).

In german (free translation):

Wir haben auf unserer Seite ein Forum "Tipps und Tricks", in der Benutzer wertvolle Hinweise f?r andere Benutzer posten d?rfen. Jedoch sollten hier keine Beitr?ge mit einer Frage starten ("ich brauche einen Tipp"), damit das ?bersichtlich bleibt. Zuerst haben wir dieses Forum moderiert, aber das macht recht viel Arbeit, zumal Fragen zu den Tipps selbstverst?ndlich erlaubt sind. Optimal w?re ein Hack, der nur neue Threads moderiert. IMHO gilt das auch in diesem Fall, z.B. Moderation neuer Threads f?r Benutzer mit weniger als 3 Hacks.

Nebenbemerkung: Ich habe eine simple L?sung gefunden (aber hier nicht anwendbar): f?r dieses Forum setzte ich in newthread.php einen Hinweistext in das Antwortfeld. Den kann der Benutzer nicht ?bersehen, zumal er das l?schen muss.
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Old 04-13-2002, 06:39 PM
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I translated the german part by a programm, but I don't know if the result is that what I want to say. I only know that the result from englisch to german is not very well.

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constructed by Langenscheid T1:
We have a forum "Tips and tricks" on our page, in the user valuable notes for other users posten may. However no contributions with a question should start here ("I need a tip") so that that remains clear. First we moderated this forum, but that does job quite much especially as questions for the tips are allowed as a matter of course. Optimal would be Hack, that moderates only new threads. That is meant for IMHO also in this case, for example fashion ration of new threads for users with less than 3 Hacks.

Secondary remark: I found a simple solution (, however, here not applicable): for this forum I put some notes in newthread.php into the answer field. The user can not overlook that one especially as it must extinguish that.
something to : the program transtates "Bill Gates" to "Rechnung Tore". First word in german is that must you pay for something you haveshoped, in common the food in a restaurant. Second word is goal in "Fussball". OK. I'm afraid that nobody (or noone?) understands.
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Old 04-13-2002, 11:24 PM
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I would have to say with no dout in my mind. YES.
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lool bill gates = rechnung tore.. l??l.. ist schon verst?ndlich harvey
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Posted this in the Site Feedback forum, but here it is again:

I would support you guys moderating the hacks. The Full Releases forum has more than its share of duplicate, useless, and rough-draft-quality hacks to offer. I'm afraid moderating them may be the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

(I was guilty of posting junk at least once, too, when I started out.)
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