vBulletin 4 - What's the deal with this!?

[Brandon Sheley]

I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of vbulletin 4.0 threads popping up here from now on
btw I like the screenshots
http://www.vbulletin.com/index.php?do=screenshots

[HMBeaty]

Me too, I just pre-ordered the suite

[Brandon Sheley]

Originally Posted by HMBeaty

Me too, I just pre-ordered the suite

ooooOoo
I'm holding out, thinking about just dropping the vb blog :down:

[mhackl]

$130 one time upgrade seems reasonable to me. It looks like a significant upgrade. Quality development deserves a quality reward.

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I'm willing to go ahead and pre-order, but I've yet to see when it'll be available.

[Skyrider]

Truth being told, I'm confused. In the FAQ it says:

As a current owned license holder, I get access to Forum 4.0. Once my current license expires, can I continue to get upgrades on the 4 series?

No. You will have to purchase an upgrade license in order to have access to any further maintenance, security or minor point releases on the 4 series.

Just find it a bit unfair you only receive a life-time free updates when you buy a major release (this would be 4.0) but not when you paid a lot of money on the previous versions. I would say if you are a current holder of a license, you would be able to get life time free updates for 4.0 as well but not for 5.0 later on.

I also noticed you can no longer "upgrade" your current license (for another year of updates for xxx of dollars) and you are forced to pay the full price of the forums?

Support by email & online support ticket system, for one year. Cost is $80.00

And you also have to pay for online ticket support if you want to gain aditional support? I thought this was included when you pay for a license, regardless which one. :-\... Sorry, but I find this getting very expensive. Money doesn't grow on trees you know. I already paid a lot for this software, and truth being told I'm angered to see these price changes.

Yes, I know. Developing this forum takes up a lot of time and money for those who work on it. I understand. But if you look around the internet, you see tons of people making free software and they only gain donation money. VB already gets enough money from their customers and I find it being unfair you are being forced to buy the full VB 4.0 price if you wish to receive more upgrades if your license expires. Do tell me if I'm wrong, but my license expires in 4 months, this means I can't upgrade anymore and I have to pay for a full new license in order to receive life-time upgrades for vb 4.0. Seriously, do you think i have the money for that?

EDIT

You can upgrade to the suite. At this time you can't upgrade to the forum only, that will be possible after the pre-sale offer has ended.

Apparently, that solved a few things.

EDIT 2:

If you have an owned license then the upgrade price to a vBulletin 4.0 Forum license will be $175

Forget it. I already paid a lot of money on VB 2 years ago which cost almost as much as This "upgrade" will be + a yearly upgrade I made next year of 40 dollars. Now I have to pay the full price to upgrade? Sorry, but I don't think so. Money doesn't grow on trees. This is screwing over your customers.

[Sworm]

Originally Posted by ludachris

I just received an email from vb telling me that since I'm a "preferred customer with an active license" that I can get the discount price of $130 for the suite. That's a hefty upgrade price tag, having already purchased owned licenses for vb and vb blog.

Yes but the license will end when your license will expiry....?????

[Skyrider]

Originally Posted by Sworm

Yes but the license will end when your license will expiry....?????

Your owned license will never expire.

[MrEyes]

Meh, I am going to pitch in here....

Since VB4 was originally announced I intended to upgrade to the full publishing suite once I could see it working with my own eyes and more "bleeding edge" administrators had put it through it's paces. At the end of the day, other than the odd screenshot, the elephant in the room is that nobody outside the closed circle of developers/testers has seen VB4 in action. As administrator of a number of large sites, IMHO it is extremely sensible to wait until others have seen and used VB4.

However, the current "loyal customer" discounts only apply until the end of this month, and it is extremely unlikely that VB4 will be released before then. So in essence we are being asked to buy into what is, from my customer perspective, vapourware.

Now I have a choice to make:

• Cross my fingers and hope that VB4 will be what I hope it will be, invest in the vapourware and save $120.
• Wait until it is released and lose the saving if VB4 is as good as they say it is, or save $250+ by not buying it at all if VB4 turns out to be a damp squib.

Choices, choices

[cosy]

the only problem is for ppl that got vblog money spend for nothing
who got vblog should have a discount

[Markos]

Originally Posted by FF|Skyrider

Your owned license will never expire.

i don't understand i own a Owned licence and it says Expiry Date Aug 25th '10

where does it tell u what type of licence u own cos i cant see it anywhere