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[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by nexialys

i personally think that you do not need a lawyer each time something bad come to you. if you can not protect yourself without a lawyer, do not go online.

Are you sure about that nex? If that's the case what are you doing online. Just seems a little hypocritical what you just said there, and a little funny at the same time.

Your english has picked up again I noticed. If lasto wishes to seek legal advice that is his privilege. Personally i think it would come to no avail. The best bet is to achieve changes here to lower the scamming that is increasing on a daily basis..

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

Are you sure about that nex? If that's the case what are you doing online. Just seems a little hypocritical what you just said there, and a little funny at the same time.

Using the services of a lawyer once is not hypocritical, it's sporadically stupid. I meant that if each of your frustrations have to pass thru the uses of a lawyer, you have a problem,. because the net is filled with frustrations.

and btw, my unique use of a lawyer was not because of my own frustration, but to protect me from someone else's frustration... this is completely different.

the only way a user can protect himself here is by checking references (background as you say so)... if you can not check someone else's work, you can hire the guy anyway, but you have 50/50 chances to be frustrated at the end... and even some coders here have good reputation but sometimes give bad results because nobody's perfect.

[smacklan]

I think Princeton and Marco have stated pretty plainly no changes will be forthcoming to the Paid Requests forum. It may be out of their hands to make changes if they wanted to. It is a buyer beware situation not unlike many marketplaces on the internet.

[Shelley_c]

Don't want to hear it nex, your personal matters don't interest me. Try and be constructive instead of kicking someone in the teeth & basically laughing at them when they are down. There's one thing i hate and that's people being scammed. If I could help I would.

actually Shelley, if you read the first place, and if lasto is fair enough to say it, you will see that i was the first one to try and help him with his first situation... i am even one of the few here to execute some work to replace the work of some scammer when a client come to me and prove being scammed...

you just did not see my point the way i showed it... and you are the one saying i am hypocritic when i never attacked nobody...

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

Are you sure about that nex? If that's the case what are you doing online. Just seems a little hypocritical what you just said there, and a little funny at the same time.

Your english has picked up again I noticed. If lasto wishes to seek legal advice that is his privilege.

I think folk will have to look at their actions and stop being so trusting I know in the real world we'd like nothing better than to be able to trust someone, but i'm sorry to dissapoint, It don't work out like that.

Say I was in a Restuarant, and a guy came up to me and said, "Hey, I have a 50" Plasma TV for sale for $250, Gimme the money and i'll go and fetch it"

How many of you here would give the cash without Question?? The truth is you wouldn't, But thats exactly what your doing.

Shop around, get to know the person and most importantly Hang onto your money until you've got something worth spending it on.

If a coder or designer is confident in their work then i'm sure they'll wait for their money, I can't see any reason as to why they'll feel to take cash up front, its not as if they have to buy anything. If you remember the following...

S.T.O.P

S. Safety - are you 100% certain that your happy to trust this person with your personal information and logins.

T. Time - Like all work, There comes a time when its completed. Find out how long and when you can expect your work to be done. You don't want it dragging on for months.

O. Organise - Before you engage full steam ahead, check that you have details about the coder, A landline number and address, Referances, and recomendations. A little bit of organising here will prevent hic ups later.

P. Payment. - When your happy with the work and the jobs been completed, then Pay, Don't delay as the coder has worked for you on Trust, Its a two way thing, so when you get your payment request and its what you agreed then please Pay promptly.

Its a Mad world out there so Be Safe

[Coders Shack]

sounds good to me

[Alfa1]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

S. Safety - are you 100% certain that your happy to trust this person with your personal information and logins.

O. Organise - Before you engage full steam ahead, check that you have details about the coder, .... Referances, and recomendations. A little bit of organising here will prevent hic ups later.

Isn't this exactly why a Coder rating system does? It adds references and recommendations. It gives extra credence to coders.

When you post a coding job here, you get contacted by all kinds of people. Some seem really interesting to work with, but many others seem like shady scams to me. I may very well be wrong. But I received a lot of offers from people without any reference or even posts here, who did not seem to need more information about the project but wanted money upfront.

Basically the only way to check a coder out is to review how good his/her work posted here is, and how well that is supported. That does limit the number of coders to choose from substantially.

[lasto]

Im not bothered about the money i actually lost.What annoys me the most,is the fact that the scammers can go freely around this board as if nothing happened.The 1st person who scammed me used to send emails to me nearly every day laughing at my attempts to get him banned from here.
I did my research on the 2nd coder and he seemed to be fine and had done other jobs in the past - so this is no guarantee you wont get stung.

What is the policy when someone rips you off,besides the usual,which is do your research ?

[Spank]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

If a coder or designer is confident in their work then i'm sure they'll wait for their money, I can't see any reason as to why they'll feel to take cash up front, its not as if they have to buy anything.

If you are selling a 50" Plasma TV for sale for $250, and someone says to you "I'll take the telly. Give it to me and I'll go get the cash"

It's not just the people requesting the work being done that are getting scammed. A few months ago I spent 3 hours sorting out someone's database after quoting a very cheap price. I did the work and haven't heard from the guy since.

I think that's why some coders want at least some cash up front before doing the work. Why should the coder trust the client if the client doesn't trust the coder?