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Old 05-02-2008, 06:13 AM
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I wish that if vb.org doesnt help paid products to market here, that there is at least
chip in feature for each mod that will display paid contribution to the mod.

This will help to reward authors and motivate them to publish bug-free and supported mods.

There so many not-updated and bugy mods here that installing a mod is becoming a nightmare.
I also miss drupal like mods approach with bug and feature request tracking. Not to mention declaration of developement stage and recommendation of installing or not.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:34 PM
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If an author has his paypal info filled in it will automatically put a paypal donate button on this mods listings.
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:49 AM
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That is fine, but I am talking about transparent system. One that will show contributors and will promote chip-in behaviour.
I wish that only supported hack will have this. With support I mean updating and removing of bugs - not giving a helping hand from the author (this can be managed with community).

Vb.org may or may not take some administration fee for moving and removing chip-in ability.
They should take care of what is supported and what can be trusted for chip-in (without garantees of course).

There should be also request forum for chip-in mods - simillar to paid mod request.
If there will be enough money in to-be chip-in box, I think there will be also developer willing to step-in.

In current paid mod forum I can not step in and say "Hey I want to chip-in for this feature"...
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:25 AM
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I don't really understand how this would work, there is a paid request section for Paid Modifications and a free modifications section. Trying to bridge these two areas would probably create problems.

If you chip-in then the coder is basically under an obligation to do what you ask, essentially you are asking for a Paid modification (or addition to a modification). What would happen if the coder decided to take your chip-in and not add the feature you wanted?

I doubt vB.org would be willing to adopt your feature as it would increase their responsibilities in managing modifications and users, something which they would probably want to avoid.

I think the current scheme of things work just fine, if you want to donate to someone then you can if however you want a paid modification you can post in the paid requests section.

(P.S. The above represents my personal opinion not that of vBulletin.org team)
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:00 PM
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Im guessing what he means is a system in which a user like himself can request an extensive modification.
Then a coder would look over the needs of the user and quote a price.
The price might be too much for the user, in that situation most users either look for other alternatives, or they try to get others to pool money with in order to get the modification made.

The pooling of money is not always easy. Organization and trust of strangers being difficult things sometimes.

This can be alleviated by a simple and transparent system in which a coder sets a price and folks are able to contribute towards the funding of the modification via a series of micropayments.

Lets say the mod costs 100 dollars.
The user that was interested in it can only afford to pay 25 dollars.
But i really like the mod as well, and while its not worth 100 dollars to me, its surely worth 25 or 30, so i contribute some money as well.
Then some other person reads the thread and decides they want to chip in as well because they would like to have this brand new modification.

The asking price is met, the thread is marked as Paid, and the funds are processed and transferred to the coder so he can start work on the modification.

It would have to be some sort of middleware between vB and paypal.
When a person contributes 30 bucks, they arent really sending any money, its more of a promise to contribute 30 bucks.
Nothing has happened the paypal end yet, its all just held on vB.
Once the amount is met, then automatically the amounts are deducted from each persons paypal and sent to the coder.

There can even be further safeguards put in place.
Emails/PM's can be automatically sent alerting the parties involved that the price has been met and that it was time for them to go and give a final authorization for the transfer.
Or it can check to make sure the funds are available, and if they are not the price goes back to its previous status of Unpaid, and the amount submitted by the person who could not meet the funds is removed from the equation.
Another person would then have to then continue the process as before.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:40 AM
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I like this idea, seems it could work for many instances, new mods and to help continue dead mods.
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:30 PM
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Great idea to help get dead mods back up and running.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:25 PM
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There is a nice widget at www.chipin.com Why not to put this into the mod thread first post.
Along that I would list all contributors (maybe it is possible with widget)
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I think the current scheme of things work just fine, if you want to donate to someone then you can if however you want a paid modification you can post in the paid requests section.
I think that pretty much sums it up.
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Old 10-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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Actually I proposed this because I do not think that current system works.

There are many mods, I can not use because they are full of bugs, not finished or the dont function properly. There are many more that havent been even developed due to lack of time and.. money...

If you like it or not, time is money and therefore people tend dedicate their time into better paid jobs then developing non-paid mods... Sooner or later everybody has to make his living...

I think chip-in is very genorous way how to secure money for development time. I think it is needles to say that everything serious needs to be backed with money...
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