Fireside Copyright Discussionus

[legionofangels]

Pardon any typo's my cat Joker is being ruthless at the mo.

Anyways, I've been thinking of copyright laws in regards to music and things like that and I've found a few sites out there that seem to be in my opinion breaking copyright on others material.

Obviously Youtube and Google do it, and while the industries have done what they can to remove that copyrighted material from those sites, it's just going to be uploaded by another user if they try. Yet some videos especially one's that are popular get millions of views before they are removed or they aren't removed.

It's as if the RIAA and the Movie industry want to pick and choose who they want showing there material and when they want to claim copyright infringment and when they don't. I read an article of someone saying the lawyers hate it but the producers love it. For TV shows that aren't doing that well, exposure on youtube or other sites can increase the possibility of additional viewers and profits, etc. Yet with a show that is doing great, such as House for example, they don't want those episodes shown that much on free sites like Youtube.

Enter in a few variables to this puzzle before you give your opinion on the subject:

http://www.movies-on-demand.tv/

http://www.dizzler.com/

Seriously here, both sites are doing different approaches to the illegal and copyrighted material. Movies on Demand claims that all videos they embed are from other sites, they use a weak disclaimer on the bottom of the page, but does that make it legal? They say, hey...not our fault...the other sites is where the information is posted. But still, does that make it legal?

How is that not an issue of being an accomplice or committing a crime secondhand. As far as I'm concerned it's like buying a car with money from a bank robbery. Sure, you could use it to make a legal purchase, but the means of which you get the new car is illegal as the money was stolen from a bank.

I've thought about this for about 2 days now just getting a headache going...how? How can they do this? Is this a site about to be sued or are you telling me that all we have to do is host videos of DVD's we buy on big sites like Google with deep pockets and good lawyers and let them have the legal struggles for us?

On to Dizzler

They use a similar and ridiculous set up to try to excuse themselves from what they are doing. They designed a damn code that supposedly searches for mp3 material out there. They say they have no control over the code and can't tell whether something is copyrighted or not. Are you fuggin kidding me? They promote all the famous bands such as Nirvana, Metallica, Nelly, etc. What...and you don't know those superstar musicians copyrighted there music. They are fully compliant with removal of the material but you had better be the copyright holder apparently as they warn you in there FAQ of someone who wasn't or some company who was countersued for 100K, but still... They created a code to find and embed online MP3's without any control as to whether or not it's copyrighted or not. Therefore stating like Movies on Demand, NOT OUR FAULT, we didn't do it, the other sites did.

In both cases I reach the same conclusion, even though you're not doing it, you're creating a portal for people to access that copyrighted material, and you're creating a hub of it. Hosting material even in an embedded format allows for it to be used, and that use is prohibited under copyright.

If I'm wrong in this statement, please correct me, I'd love to hear opinions on this.