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vBSEO Google/Yahoo Sitemap Generator
Version: 2.5.0, by vBSEO vBSEO is offline
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Category: Administrative and Maintenance Tools - Version: 3.6.x Rating:
Released: 04-12-2007 Last Update: 02-20-2009 Installs: 1333
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Note: Version 2.5 replaces all previous versions of the vBSEO Google/Yahoo Sitemap Generator, and now includes support for all the new URL types in vBulletin 3.8.x.

Overview
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Providing Google, Yahoo, Ask sitemaps is an essential step towards improving your forums.

The "vBSEO Google Sitemaps" plugin provides a solution that allows your forum to be indexed by the Google (and also Yahoo and Ask) search engines faster, more completely, more effectively, and with less bandwidth consumption.

The ultimate goal is to help you achieve more web traffic for your forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Google's Description of GSM
https://services.google.com/inquiry/publishertools?hl=en_US
Google Sitemaps is an easy way for you to help improve your site?s representation in the Google index. It's a collaborative crawling system that enables you to communicate directly with Google. You get a smarter crawl because you can provide Google with specific information about all your web pages, such as when a page was last modified or how frequently it changes.

Note: This plugin is fully compliant with vBSEO 3.x version. The current version is vBSEO 3.2. However, if you are running vBSEO, please upgrade to vBSEO 3.2 or greater before installing.

Compatibility
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Fully compatible with:
  • vBulletin 3.0.x, 3.5.x, 3.6.x, 3.7.x and 3.8.x
  • vBulletin Blogs 1.0.x and 2.0.x *Optional
  • vBSEO 2.x, 3.x *Optional
What does it do?

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  • Auto-generates a Google XML sitemap for all of your specified forum URL types (including vBulletin Blog URLs).
  • Auto-generates a Yahoo text sitemap for all of your specified forum URL types.
  • Auto-notifies Google when a new sitemap is generated.
  • Automatically sends you a summary of the sitemap generation via email each time it is created.
  • Includes only publicly accessible forums and threads.
  • Allows Google/Yahoo to find all of your forum URLs without having to spider the forum to find the links.
  • Allows Google/Yahoo to find your forum URLs without having to account for query string and/or session ID information.
  • Allows Google to give precedence to crawling your higher priority forum pages.
  • Allows Google to give precedence to crawling your forum pages that change more frequently.
  • Allows you to conserve bandwidth by more efficiently facilitating the crawling processes for GoogleBot and Yahoo Slurp.
  • Is 100% compatible with the static CRUs (Content Relevant URLs) used by vBSEO-enabled forums.
How does it work?
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Whenever it is scheduled or invoked via the URL, this plugin will generate both the Google XML formatted and the Yahoo text formatted sitemaps. If you selected "Yes" to the Google auto-notification setting, Google will be notified each time the sitemap is generated. The Yahoo sitemap must be manually submitted to http://submit.search.yahoo.com/free/request/.
  • Google Sitemap files are gzipped
  • Forum and thread pages are listed with pagination (i.e. all pages for each forums/thread are included in the sitemap)
  • Maximum Priority is set for Sticky threads.
  • Optimization for sitemap generation on large forums.
Automated Reporting Tool
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The vBSEO Sitemap includes a report tool, allowing you to track your progress. To access your reports enter the following URL:

http://www.example.com/forums/vbseo_sitemap/

NOTE: Replace "http://www.example.com/forums/" with the full URL to your vB forum root.


You will be required to login by providing your "Sitemap Interface Access Password" from your vBSEO Sitemap settings in:
  • vBulletin Admin CP (for 3.5.x/3.6.x/3.7.x/3.8.x users) OR
  • vbseo_sitemap.php configuration file (for 3.0.x users) located in the vbseo_sitemap directory in your forum root.
Once you successfully login, you will be provided with a list of 'Useful Links'. Here are the 4 main links:

Show Reports List
The 'Show Reports List' link will display a report of each time your vBSEO Sitemap generator executed, including the (1) date, (2) run time, (3) total URLs included, and (4) and change in # of URLs included from the last generation.

Each vBSEO Sitemap generation record will include a (1) "View details" and (2) "Remove record" link. The "View Details" link shows more detailed information about the sitemap generated. The "Remove record" will permanently delete the record from your reports.

Show Sitemap Downloads Log
The 'Show Sitemap Downloads Log' link will display a report of each time your vBSEO Sitemap was downloaded by either a search engine (GoogleBot or Yahoo) or by another user agent (i.e. Web browser, etc.).

The report includes the (1) date, (2) name of sitemap file downloaded, (3) Bot, (4) IP address of the downloader, and the (5) User-agent.

Each vBSEO Sitemap download record will include a "Remove record" link which will permanently delete the record from your reports.

Run Sitemap Generator
The 'Run Sitemap Generator' link will automatically regenerate your Google and Yahoo sitemaps.

Your Forums Homepage
The 'Your Forums Homepage' link is a quick link back to your forum homepage.

Additional Links
Additional links to various other related SEO resources are also included.


Click "Install"
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Please click "Install" to show your support for this script.


Installation & Configuration for vB 3.5.x, 3.6.x, 3.7.x and 3.8.x as a Plugin
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Follow the installation/upgrade instructions provided in the docs/readme.html file.


Google Webmaster Accounts
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It is NOT required for you to have a Google Webmaster account to run the vBulletin Google Sitemaps plugin. If you decide to setup an account for testing purposes you can do so here:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/login?sourceid=gsm&subid=us-et-about2


Copyright & Licensing

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  • vBSEO Google Sitemaps plugin is copyright protected by Crawlability Inc.
  • You are free to download and install this plugin on any vBulletin forum for which you hold a valid vB license.
  • Unauthorized distribution of any code and/or documentation, whole or in part, included here is strictly prohibited.
  • In addition, the following copyright notice must be maintained.
vBSEO(TM) ? 2005-2009 Crawlability, Inc.


Revision History
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02/22/2009 - Version 2.5 Released

NEW FEATURE: Blog tags URLs are included.
NEW FEATURE: Social Group Discussion URLs are included.
NEW FEATURE: Smart Priority applied for the following URL types
  1. Show Post
  2. Member Profiles
  3. Forum Display
  4. Poll Results
  5. Blog Entries
  6. Member Profile Albums
  7. Social Groups
  8. Social Groups Discussions
  9. Social Group Pictures
  10. Tags
  11. Blog Tags
UPDATE: Compatible with vBulletin 3.8.x. Includes the following updated settings:
  1. Priority Range - Show Post
  2. Priority Range - Member Profiles
  3. Priority Range - Forum Display
  4. Priority Range - Poll Results
  5. Priority Range - Show Thread
  6. Priority Range - Blog Entries
  7. Priority Range - Member Profile Albums
  8. Priority Range - Social Groups
  9. Priority Range - Social Group Pictures
  10. Priority Range - Tags
Fix: Social Group Discussion database error is fixed.

Upgrade Instructions
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(1) Follow the installation/upgrade instructions provided in the docs/readme.html file.

(2) For versions of vBulletin 3.6.x only: Open "Schedule Manager" in the vBulletin Admin Control Panel (admincp); Remove existing scheduled task for Sitemap Generator if you have one.
Note: The new task will be automatically setup when you import the XML product file.

Other vBSEO Plugins

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We welcome you to join the vBSEO Affiliate Program.

Show Your Support

  • This modification may not be copied, reproduced or published elsewhere without author's permission.

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  #672  
Old 02-24-2008, 02:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Tiger View Post
R1lover: Have a look at the previous page. Or to be short.... yes it does.
I looked but didn't see it... thank for the answer though.
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Quote:
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zatzy,

please try this: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...rl#post1395488


Borden,

did you create .htaccess file in forum folder?
i was also having the same error but after the link u gave i rid of that error but get new one which is forum data error see this


[homepage] [2,128.8Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] forumdisplay [2,128.8Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[forumdisplay] forum_id: 1, total threads: 0, pages: 1 [2,128.9Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[forumdisplay] forum_id: 2, total threads: 1, pages: 1 [2,129.1Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] showthread [2,129.3Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[archive homepage] [2,138.2Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] forumdisplay archived [2,138.3Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] showthread archived [2,138.6Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] member [2,140.5Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] polls [2,141.6Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] blogs [2,141.7Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
Database error
The Forums database has encountered a problem.


so any help please
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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Hi,

Does anyone know how to get this working with DownloadsII?

I've made the modifications suggested on page29 but they don't seem to be working.

I ran the sitemap generator and there were no urls to add.

I then added a test .zip to the downloads and ran it again.

It still shows as 0 new urls.

Is there anything else I need to do?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Glen
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:40 PM
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Kalina,

Please try to modify your vbseo_getsitemap.php file
FIND:
PHP Code:
        if($ext=='gz' && ($umatch[1] || !strstr($_SERVER['HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING'],'gzip')) ) 
replace with:
PHP Code:
        if($ext=='gz'
add-ons list is optional.


PAKIDIL,

you should disable "Include Blog URLs" option.
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:41 PM
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glennybee,

did you include downloads mod in add-ons list in vBSEO Sitemap Generator options?
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:22 PM
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Thanks iojam, no I did not include the addons in that section.

I have now and it's working 100%.

Many thanks for the advice.

If I could rep, I would.
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i have a question or a kind of a problem.i have installed it all but i do not think it is all working properly.firstly mysite.com/public_html/vbseo_sitemap/data/

in this folder the sitemap.xml file does not exist there is only .htaacces file which inside it says deny all. and a index.php file.

Is that how it is meant to be as on google sitemaps under the webmaster website when i submitted the xml after a day google gave error saying

General HTTP error: 404 not found
We encountered an error while trying to access your Sitemap. Please ensure your Sitemap follows our guidelines and can be accessed at the location you provided and then resubmit.

so i think i may have gone wrong somewhere but not sure where.

Can i have help please .thank you
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thanks for the reply but now its showing new error after i disable blog url its says
[homepage] [2,129.1Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] forumdisplay [2,129.2Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[forumdisplay] forum_id: 1, total threads: 0, pages: 1 [2,129.2Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[forumdisplay] forum_id: 2, total threads: 1, pages: 1 [2,129.5Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] showthread [2,129.6Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[archive homepage] [2,138.6Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] forumdisplay archived [2,138.7Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] showthread archived [2,138.9Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] member [2,140.8Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[SECTION START] polls [2,142.0Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]

Warning: gzopen(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data/sitemap_1.xml.gz) [function.gzopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 579

Warning: gzopen(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data/urllist.txt.gz) [function.gzopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 583

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[create sitemap file] filename: sitemap_1.xml.gz, number of urls: 23 [2,142.6Kb mem used] [0s (+0s)]
[create sitemap in text format] part #1 [2,142.6Kb mem used] [2s (+2s)]

Warning: filesize() [function.filesize]: stat failed for /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data/sitemap_1.xml.gz in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 643

Warning: fopen(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data//progress.dat) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 866

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Warning: fopen(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data/sitemap_index.xml.gz) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 1006

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[create sitemap index] filename: sitemap_index.xml.gz, number of sitemaps: 1 [2,143.6Kb mem used] [2s (+0s)]

Warning: unlink(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data//progress.dat) [function.unlink]: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 876

Warning: fopen(/home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/data/1203886583.log) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hamarich/public_html/forum/vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_sitemap_functions.php on line 754

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so any help please ?
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:49 PM
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Hi again,

iojam have been trying to get you guys attention in the thread for the vb 3.0 version but I guess you dont browse there as much, I run another board on 3.0 and have some issues with the plugin if you could please take a look (love the plug-in whe using 3.6 an woul like it to work on the 3.0 board aswell)

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=144732
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:19 PM
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Kalina,

Please try to modify your vbseo_getsitemap.php file
FIND:
PHP Code:
        if($ext=='gz' && ($umatch[1] || !strstr($_SERVER['HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING'],'gzip')) ) 
replace with:
PHP Code:
        if($ext=='gz'
I tried that and when I click my sitemap url it then wants me to download it instead of letting me view it in the browser, so I can't tell if it looks right that way, any ideas? Thank you.
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