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Additional Navbar 3.5.3 and up · **Released**: 01-31-2006

After upgrading my 3.0.0 version of this hack a long time back and repeatedly asking for it to be moved here in the 3.5.3 area with no success. I decided to add it here myself.

Despite what category this is in it works with vBulletin 3.0 up to the most recent version of 3.5.3. Just read the directions.

What this does is create another navbar with drop down menu?s by typing $navbar2 in any of your templates. It is just like the one that comes with vBulletin 3.

After seeing a lot of replies about users wanting another navbar besides the basic one that comes with vBulletin. I waited for someone else to write one. But no one stepped forward and wrote one. I wanted this for my site and got tired of waiting for someone else to write it. So I played around and created this one for myself. I though I would share it with everyone.

Note#1: If you do not want to add a separate navbar template you can also substitute the steps in 5A through 5D and insert the navbar2.txt after you have edited it the way you want and into the same places as I mentioned for the $navbar2 in your default navbar and you will not have to do any of these other steps.

I put a lot of description tags in the HTML file to help explain what everything does. Once you understand what is going on here you can removed these. With very little modifications you can add to, remove or move items around in this navbar.

1. To install this hack you will have to create a template in you ADMINCP and call it ?navbar2? and insert the contents of the attached file "navbar2.txt" into this template file. Right now it is set up for my site. So you will have to modify it to what you want in this navbar for your site.

2. Put the following command in your phpinclude_start template:

PHP Code:


			
eval('$navbar2 = "' . fetch_template('navbar2') . '";');

2A. This is for users that have vB 3.5 and up. Step 2 will not work because the phpinclude_start template no longer exist in versions 3.5 and higher. So for 3.5 users ignore step 2 and use 2A.

Plugin System
Add new Plugin

Hook Location: global_start
Title: navbar2
Plugin PHP Code:

PHP Code:


			
eval('$navbar2 = "' . fetch_template('navbar2') . '";');

3. Now put the following command in you header or what ever template where your want the new navbar to be displayed (samples of where to put them are in the attached photos and directions are in 5A, B, C, D.):

PHP Code:


			
$navbar2

4. Since the template is uncached you will have an extra query on each page. To fix, open global.php
Find:

PHP Code:


			
// misc useful

Add below:

PHP Code:


			
'navbar2',

5A. Under current Navigation / Breadcrumb Templaters - navbar:
Find:

Code:

<!-- / nav buttons bar -->

Below that place:

Code:

$navbar2

5B. On top of forums tables:
Find:

Code:

<!-- / PAGENAV POPUP -->
</if>

Below that place:

Code:

$navbar2

5C. Under your header:
Find:

Code:

<br />
<!-- breadcrumb, login, pm info -->

Above that add:

Code:

$navbar2

5D. Top of current navbar:
Find:

Code:

<!-- breadcrumb, login, pm info -->

Under that add:

Code:

$navbar2

vBadvance CMPS using vB 3.5 or higher. To get this working with the homepage you will have to do the following.

Go into your ADMINCP-->vBa CPMS-->Default Setting-->Portal Output Global Variables and add navbar2 in the block there and save it.

Arcaded hack. You will need to go into your darcaded hack and edit a line. Here are the directions:
Go to you arcade/functions/functions.php
open it with a text editor:
Find:

Code:

global $header, $vbphrase, $vboptions, $stylevar, $headinclude, $bbuserinfo, $session, $show, $pmbox;
global $forumjump, $timezone, $logincode, $_USEROPTIONS, $scriptpath, $admincpdir, $modcpdir, $quickchooserbits;

Replace with:

Code:

global $header, $vbphrase, $vboptions, $stylevar, $headinclude, $bbuserinfo, $session, $show, $pmbox;
global $forumjump, $timezone, $logincode, $_USEROPTIONS, $scriptpath, $admincpdir, $modcpdir, $quickchooserbits, $navbar2;

attroll · #22 04-15-2006, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manutdvn

Thank you. Great hack. But I donot understand step 3. I want to creat like 5A but I donot know how to do. Where I should put this? "$navbar2"

Can you tell me?

Thanks in advance.

If you want it to look like 5A, then you would go into you ADMINCP and into your NAVAGATION/BREADCRUMB TEMPLATES-->NAVBAR and do a search for:

Code:

<!-- / nav buttons bar -->

And under that code insert this:

Code:

$navbar2

magnaromagna · #23 04-20-2006, 06:16 AM

Nice hack,
installed

cmwg · #24 04-20-2006, 02:12 PM

It seems that the session id is not being passed...

Every link via this addon menu brings a member to the login screen (even when already logged in). Once login done the actual page appears.

Session needs to be given through this menu!!
Otherwise very good addition.

attroll · #25 04-20-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmwg

It seems that the session id is not being passed...

Every link via this addon menu brings a member to the login screen (even when already logged in). Once login done the actual page appears.

Session needs to be given through this menu!!
Otherwise very good addition.

I can not be loggged in and my additional navbar apears and all the links work in the additional navbar. If you Pm me and explain it and send me your email address you can send you navbar2 template and I will look at it.

Ohiosweetheart · #26 04-20-2006, 04:50 PM

is there a way to detach the navbars (both the navbar and navbar2) from the breadcrumbs bar? Have them underneath and independent of the breadcrumbs bar?

attroll · #27 04-20-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart

is there a way to detach the navbars (both the navbar and navbar2) from the breadcrumbs bar? Have them underneath and independent of the breadcrumbs bar?

Yes you can do it with the navbar2 as it explains in the install procedures. I am sure it can be done with the original navbar also you would just have to isolate the code.

Ohiosweetheart · #28 04-20-2006, 05:56 PM

thanks, I must have read right past that grrr.. I'll give it a go

stinger2 · #29 04-20-2006, 06:43 PM

hi attroll

off topic...i love the way how you integrated google search next to the welcome message.......is it possible to give me the code and where exactly did you place it......
thanks

Ohiosweetheart · #30 05-18-2006, 07:17 PM

Ok question... I'm having a very hard time getting the new navbar to take on the characteristics of the existing navbar. The font, font size, and background color inside the navbar are all different from the original one.

any advice on how I can fix this please?

you can see what I'm talking about at http://www.exquisitelyerotic.net/forums

EDIT... never mind I think I got it

Eq4bits · #31 05-30-2006, 02:59 PM

Question here too
Using 3.5.4
First off I'm pretty new to all this stuff and vB, been using it about 6 months now. I did a search for what I'm trying to do and it lead me to this thread.
I don't necessarily want an additional navbar, I just want to add an additional drop-down menu to the existing navbar. I sorted thru the txt file you have here and found what I thought would do it, and edited the navbar template.
As you can see in the attached image below it DID make 'Members' a 'title' with the drop-down button beside it. However, nothing happens when you click on it... nothing drops down.
This is my navbar template as it exists.. would someone take a looksey and see if they can figure out what I did wrong?

Code:

<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function log_out()
{
	ht = document.getElementsByTagName("html");
	ht[0].style.filter = "progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.BasicImage(grayscale=1)";
	if (confirm('$vbphrase[sure_you_want_to_log_out]'))
	{
		return true;
	}
	else
	{
		ht[0].style.filter = "";
		return false;
	}
}
//-->
</script>

<br />

<!-- breadcrumb, login, pm info -->
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" width="100%">
		<if condition="is_array($navbits)">
			<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
			<tr valign="bottom">
				<td><a href="#" onclick="history.back(1); return false;"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/navbits_start.gif" alt="$vbphrase[go_back]" border="0" /></a></td>
				<td>&nbsp;</td>
				<td width="100%"><span class="navbar"><a href="$vboptions[forumhome].php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="1">$vboptions[bbtitle]</a></span> $navbits[breadcrumb]</td>
			</tr>
			<tr>
				<td class="navbar" style="font-size:10pt; padding-top:1px" colspan="3"><a href="$scriptpath"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/navbits_finallink.gif" alt="$vbphrase[reload_this_page]" border="0" /></a> <strong>$navbits[lastelement]</strong></td>
			</tr>
			</table>			
		<else />
			<div class="navbar" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="$vboptions[forumhome].php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="1"><img class="inlineimg" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/navbits_start.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a> <strong>$vboptions[bbtitle]</strong></div>
		</if>
	</td>	
	
	<if condition="$show['member']">
	
		<td class="alt2" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">
		<div class="smallfont">
			<strong><phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]">$vbphrase[welcome_x]</phrase></strong><br />
			<phrase 1="$pmbox[lastvisitdate]" 2="$pmbox[lastvisittime]">$vbphrase[last_visited_x_at_y]</phrase><br />
			<if condition="$bbuserinfo['pmunread']">
				<a href="http://www.******.net/forums/private.php?"><img border="0" src="http://www.*****.net/forums/images/newpm.gif" width="22" height="10"></a>
				</if>
			<if condition="$show['pmstats']"><phrase 1="$vbphrase[unread_x_nav_compiled]" 2="$vbphrase[total_x_nav_compiled]" 3="$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[private_messages_nav]</phrase></if>
		</div>
		</td>
		
	<else />
		
		<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap" style="padding:0px">
			
		<!-- login form -->
		<form action="login.php" method="post" onsubmit="md5hash(vb_login_password, vb_login_md5password, vb_login_md5password_utf, $show[nopasswordempty])">
		<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_md5.js"></script>
		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="$stylevar[formspacer]" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="smallfont"><label for="navbar_username">$vbphrase[username]</label></td>
			<td><input type="text" class="bginput" style="font-size: 11px" name="vb_login_username" id="navbar_username" size="10" accesskey="u" tabindex="101" value="$vbphrase[username]" onfocus="if (this.value == '$vbphrase[username]') this.value = '';" /></td>
			<td class="smallfont" colspan="2" nowrap="nowrap"><label for="cb_cookieuser_navbar"><input type="checkbox" name="cookieuser" value="1" tabindex="103" id="cb_cookieuser_navbar" accesskey="c" />$vbphrase[remember_me]</label></td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="smallfont"><label for="navbar_password">$vbphrase[password]</label></td>
			<td><input type="password" class="bginput" style="font-size: 11px" name="vb_login_password" id="navbar_password" size="10" accesskey="p" tabindex="102" /></td>
			<td><input type="submit" class="button" value="$vbphrase[log_in]" tabindex="104" title="$vbphrase[enter_username_to_login_or_register]" accesskey="s" /></td>
		</tr>
		</table>
		<input type="hidden" name="s" value="$session[sessionhash]" />
		<input type="hidden" name="do" value="login" />		
		<input type="hidden" name="vb_login_md5password" />
		<input type="hidden" name="vb_login_md5password_utf" />
		</form>
		<!-- / login form -->
			
		</td>
		
	</if>	
	
</tr>
</table>
<!-- / breadcrumb, login, pm info -->

<!-- nav buttons bar -->
<div align="center">
	<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" align="center" style="border-top-width:0px">
	<tr align="center">
		<if condition="$show['member']">
			<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="usercp.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[user_cp]</a></td>
		</if>
		<if condition="$show['registerbutton']">
			<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="register.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[register]</a></td>
		</if>
                <td id="members_title" class="vbmenu_control"><a href="#members_title">Members</a> <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("members_title"); </script></td>
		<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="5">$vbphrase[faq]</a></td>		<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="calendar.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[calendar]</a></td>
	<!-- SigmaChat -->
		<td id="sigmachat" class="vbmenu_control">
		<a href="$show[nojs_link]#sigmachat">$vbphrase[sigmachat_title] $chatcountbrack</a>
		<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("sigmachat"); </script></td>
	<!-- /SigmaChat -->
		<if condition="$show['popups']">		
			<if condition="$show['searchbuttons']">
				<if condition="$show['member']">
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getnew" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[new_posts_nav]</a></td>
				<else />
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getdaily" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[todays_posts]</a></td>
				</if>
				<td id="navbar_search" class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="4" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[search]</a> <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("navbar_search"); </script></td>
			</if>
			<if condition="$show['member']">
				<td id="usercptools" class="vbmenu_control"><a href="$show[nojs_link]#usercptools">$vbphrase[quick_links]</a> <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("usercptools"); </script></td>		
			</if>
		<else />		
			<if condition="$show['searchbuttons']">
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="4">$vbphrase[search]</a></td>
				<if condition="$show['member']">
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getnew" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[new_posts_nav]</a></td>
				<else />
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getdaily" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[todays_posts]</a></td>
				</if>
			</if>
			<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="forumdisplay.php?$session[sessionurl]do=markread" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[mark_forums_read]</a></td>
			<if condition="$show['member']">			
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="#" onclick="window.open('misc.php?$session[sessionurl]do=buddylist&amp;focus=1','buddylist','statusbar=no,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=250,height=300'); return false;">$vbphrase[open_buddy_list]</a></td>			
			</if>			
		</if>
		<if condition="$show['member']">
			<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="login.php?$session[sessionurl]do=logout&amp;logouthash=$bbuserinfo[logouthash]" onclick="return log_out()">$vbphrase[log_out]</a></td>
		</if>
	</tr>
	</table>
</div>
<!-- / nav buttons bar -->

<br />
<if condition="$show['forumdesc']">
	<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
	<tr>
		<td class="alt1" width="100%"><strong>$foruminfo[title]</strong> <span class="smallfont">$foruminfo[description]</span></td>
	</tr>
	</table>
	<br />
</if>

<if condition="$show['popups']">
<!-- NAVBAR POPUP MENUS -->
	
	<if condition="$show['searchbuttons']">
	<!-- header quick search form -->
	<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="navbar_search_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="thead">$vbphrase[search_forums]</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option" title="nohilite">
			<form action="search.php" method="post">
				<input type="hidden" name="do" value="process" />
				<input type="hidden" name="showposts" value="0" />
				<input type="hidden" name="quicksearch" value="1" />
				<input type="hidden" name="s" value="$session[sessionhash]" />
				<input type="text" class="bginput" name="query" size="20" />&nbsp;$gobutton<br />
			</form>
			</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="4" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[advanced_search]</a></td>
		</tr>
		</table>
	</div>
	<!-- / header quick search form -->
	</if>

	<if condition="$show['member']">
	<!-- user cp tools menu -->
	<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="usercptools_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		
		<tr><td class="thead">$vbphrase[quick_links]</td></tr>		
		<if condition="$vboptions['enablesearches']"><tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getdaily">$vbphrase[todays_posts]</a></td></tr></if>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="forumdisplay.php?$session[sessionurl]do=markread">$vbphrase[mark_forums_read]</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="#" onclick="window.open('misc.php?$session[sessionurl]do=buddylist&amp;focus=1','buddylist','statusbar=no,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=250,height=300'); return false;">$vbphrase[open_buddy_list]</a></td></tr>
				
		<tr><td class="thead"><a href="usercp.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[user_control_panel]</a></td></tr>
		<if condition="$show['siglink']"><tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="profile.php?$session[sessionurl]do=editsignature">$vbphrase[edit_signature]</a></td></tr></if>
		<!--<if condition="$show['avatarlink']"><tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="profile.php?$session[sessionurl]do=editavatar">$vbphrase[edit_avatar]</a></td></tr></if>-->
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="profile.php?$session[sessionurl]do=editprofile">$vbphrase[edit_profile]</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="profile.php?$session[sessionurl]do=editoptions">$vbphrase[edit_options]</a></td></tr>
		
		<tr><td class="thead">$vbphrase[miscellaneous]</td></tr>
		<if condition="$show['pmstats']"><tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[private_messages]</a></td></tr></if>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="subscription.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[subscribed_threads]</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?$session[sessionurl]u=$bbuserinfo[userid]">$vbphrase[my_profile]</a></td></tr>
		<if condition="$show['wollink']"><tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="online.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[whos_online]</a></td></tr></if>
		
		</table>
	</div>
	<!-- / user cp tools menu -->
	</if>
        <!-- MemberTitle -->
<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="members_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		<tr><td class="thead">Members</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="memberlist.php">Members List</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="userpage.php?do=list">Members Pages</a></td></tr>

</table>
</div>
        <!-- / MemberTitle -->
	<!-- SigmaChat -->
		<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="sigmachat_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">		
		<tr><td class="thead">$vbphrase[sigmachat_title]</td></tr>		
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option">
			<a href="chat.php?$session[sessionurl]">$vbphrase[sigmachat_enter]
			</a></td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option">
			<a href="#" onClick="window.open('chat.php?$session[sessionurl]&do=popup', 'sigmachat', 
			'width=650,height=400,statusbar=no,scrollbars=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no,resizable=yes'); 
			return false">$vbphrase[sigmachat_enter_float]</a></td>
		<tr><td class="thead">$chatcount $vbphrase[sigmachat_users_chatting]</td></tr>
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option">
		<a href="chat_online.php?$session[sessionurl]">$vbphrase[sigmachat_who]</a></td></tr>
		</table>
		</div>
	<!-- / SigmaChat -->
<!-- / NAVBAR POPUP MENUS -->

<!-- PAGENAV POPUP -->

	<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="pagenav_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="thead" nowrap="nowrap">$vbphrase[go_to_page]</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option" title="nohilite">
			<form action="$vboptions[forumhome].php" method="get" onsubmit="return this.gotopage()" id="pagenav_form">
				<input type="text" class="bginput" id="pagenav_itxt" style="font-size:11px" size="4" />
				<input type="button" class="button" id="pagenav_ibtn" value="$vbphrase[go]" />
			</form>
			</td>
		</tr>
		</table>
	</div>

<!-- / PAGENAV POPUP -->
</if>
<br />
$newpm

Is it because I removed:

Code:

<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="memberlist.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[members_list]</a></td>

from the section below?:

Code:

<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" accesskey="5">$vbphrase[faq]</a></td>
        <td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="memberlist.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[members_list]</a></td>
        <td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="calendar.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[calendar]</a></td>

Any help would be appreciated

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