Paid Mods

[MPDev]

I know there is a rule against posting about mods which are "sold" - just curious why this exclusion? Is there an alternative where paid modifications are listed?

[Velocd]

Likely not.

This topic has been discussed many a times in past threads, I suggest using the search function.

A better place to have post this thread is:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=7

[MPDev]

Maybe, maybe not. I was looking for a discussion about the subject, not just asking the site administrators. Searches are fine for researching historial information, but if you are looking to effect some kind of change, then the subject needs to be brought up again.

Please let us know what you think about us in here! - Well, I'm not really trying to let you know what I think about you. So...

Sit back in your lazy-boy recliner and chat away. Discuss anything related to vBulletin or life in general! - seems to indicate that anything related to vBulletin can be discussed in here.

So, the "better place" would be subjective, wouldn't it? If I was looking for group participation, this would seem most likely to be the "proper place".

Back to the subject at hand, I don't mind paying for mods when they are backed by support - in fact, there is one import mod I was interested in, but the topic was removed before I had a chance to review it and now I've sent off some PMs to try and find it.

[sabret00the]

if i recall, it was to do with jelsoft not wanting to be a fertiliser to other businesses in their opening stages as once they got the custom they could just drag the people off to their sites

also once you encourage paid mods, free ones would become sparse, the only way i could see it working was on a privilidge system, but then that would encourage poor support and spamming.

catch-22

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Maybe, maybe not. I was looking for a discussion about the subject, not just asking the site administrators. Searches are fine for researching historial information, but if you are looking to effect some kind of change, then the subject needs to be brought up again.

Please let us know what you think about us in here! - Well, I'm not really trying to let you know what I think about you. So...

Sit back in your lazy-boy recliner and chat away. Discuss anything related to vBulletin or life in general! - seems to indicate that anything related to vBulletin can be discussed in here.

So, the "better place" would be subjective, wouldn't it? If I was looking for group participation, this would seem most likely to be the "proper place".

Back to the subject at hand, I don't mind paying for mods when they are backed by support - in fact, there is one import mod I was interested in, but the topic was removed before I had a chance to review it and now I've sent off some PMs to try and find it.

Not everyone can afford to shell out bucks for every mod that is paid that they like. The object of the site here is to share coding and learn from one another, not just make bucks of off unsupecting newbies.

[MPDev]

Except that many can - obviously they paid for vB in the first place. Just because some cannot afford to pay for a mod with support shouldn't preclude them from being offered - it's still offers people a choice and they can look for similiar mods which do not have a fee. Gearing the site to those who cannot afford anything beyond their vB license seems very limiting, IMO.

Since the mods require vB to begin with, I'm not sure I see how selling add-ons would canabilize Jelsoft's business. Would it not potentially lead to better mods as people could charge for their efforts and customers could get better support?

[Boofo]

There are a lot of free hacks here that don't get the support they should get. It seems to me when you already have someone's money the support isn't quite so important. Telling someone "well, it works for me" after you have their money really sucks.

[amykhar]

Originally Posted by Boofo

Not everyone can afford to shell out bucks for every mod that is paid that they like.

Just a comment - this is irrelevant Bob. Not everyone can afford Vbulletin either. That doesn't mean they deserve to have it given to them for free

I have never understood this community that thinks code should be free but styles and graphics deserve to be paid for.

That said, back on topic, I can understand perfectly why Jelsoft wouldn't people posting willy-nilly about paid hacks. It reeks of spam when a forum becomes overloaded with "buy this" posts and signature lines.

In addition, Jelsoft deserves a cut if we are going to use their site to promote our paid products. I would love to see Jelsoft do something along the lines of WebHosting Talk and allow developers to pay to advertise their addons.

Amy

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by amykhar

Just a comment - this is irrelevant Bob. Not everyone can afford Vbulletin either. That doesn't mean they deserve to have it given to them for free

I have never understood this community that thinks code should be free but styles and graphics deserve to be paid for.

That said, back on topic, I can understand perfectly why Jelsoft wouldn't people posting willy-nilly about paid hacks. It reeks of spam when a forum becomes overloaded with "buy this" posts and signature lines.

In addition, Jelsoft deserves a cut if we are going to use their site to promote our paid products. I would love to see Jelsoft do something along the lines of WebHosting Talk and allow developers to pay to advertise their addons.

Amy

No, it's not irrelevant, Amy. This site was set up to learn and share coding. It has no place for paid hacks or advertising of any kind. And it should be that way. Some of the hacks that have turned into paid hacks, the authors learned how to do a lot of the coding for those hacks here. They should be more interested in giving back to the community that taught them than trying to make a fast buck out of it.

And I don't think it's ok for graphics and styles to be paid for. I have 4 styles on my board and I didn't have to pay for any of them. There are styles out there that are free and some of them are just as good if not better than the ones people pay for.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Except that many can - obviously they paid for vB in the first place. Just because some cannot afford to pay for a mod with support shouldn't preclude them from being offered - it's still offers people a choice and they can look for similiar mods which do not have a fee. Gearing the site to those who cannot afford anything beyond their vB license seems very limiting, IMO.

Since the mods require vB to begin with, I'm not sure I see how selling add-ons would canabilize Jelsoft's business. Would it not potentially lead to better mods as people could charge for their efforts and customers could get better support?

na u don't get it
a lot of people just about scrape the money to get vbulletin in the first place
the last thing they would want it to pay for more stuff
i mean if money didn't matter
the debate about 'why should i pay for vbulletin when x forum is free'
wouldn't exist
i mean if i had to pay for every mod for my site
i would have stuck to a basic forum and only template mods
i mean the discussion of paid mods only seems to be an issue on
vbulletin
you never see anyone saying am gonna make x mod a paid service on other forums that run free
so i dont get why is it here

the way i look at it if you don't want to share then don't
but leave the free communities to it
and make ur own site for paid software
reason why i say that is because others have done just that

also the fact that you can't advertise Paid scripts here doesn't neccessarily
take away their popularity
especially in the case of Photopost , while not fully a mod for this forum
it does intergrate with it

i feel that a lot of people want to make a buck on Vbulletins success
and its probably one of the reasons why people tend to make mods and later decide to make em paid.
Fair dues to that but why complain about it
if its paid its paid and if its not its not

i would say vbulletin.org would not exist with the amount of mods as it does not
and the community would not be as big if paid hacks were allowed
coz then every single mod wether big or small would probably cost 5 bucks
for example even simple template mods
Filbert has turned into 5 dollars / 10 dollar installations
which is not a complaint but to be honest how is it justifiable

i can understand for large large modifications but small ones .

If i had to pay for hundreds of mods which is eventually what this community could become if paid hacks were allowed
i think a lot of customers would either have a lot of standard vbulletin forums out there

and personally i don't think i'd stay a customer with vbulletin too long
coz the biggest attraction to me is its hacks

i have already 100+ mods on my forum
if i had to pay for each one i'd be very poor right now
or they would simply not be there

or maybe i'd be learning web design a whole lot faster