Go Back   vb.org Archive > Community Central > Community Lounge
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-17-2004, 04:19 AM
Merjawy's Avatar
Merjawy Merjawy is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 505
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default Mar 23 - Aug 17 vBHosting Hack No News

Well, its been so long since we heard Jellsoft's talking to their lawyer and have yet to hear anything back.. I think something is not right going on here..

I just saw a copy of the hack tonight and made me come back here and check the thread... I am just asking to have some update on the matter from Jellsoft if we may.

I don't think this matter should die just like it did on this forum, its been so long guys.

In my views, this hack should be reinstated >>

I am not a lawyer, but I stayed at Holiday Inn Express

Thanks
  #2  
Old 08-17-2004, 09:19 AM
Dean C's Avatar
Dean C Dean C is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: England
Posts: 9,071
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Well last time I checked the modification was not allowed, and that was official word from Jelsoft There's your answer
  #3  
Old 08-17-2004, 12:38 PM
j_86 j_86 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 275
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Why isn't it allowed?

[EDIT] Oh its the better version of that dorm thing - I have this installed :surprised:.

I wonder why it can't be allowed...
  #4  
Old 08-17-2004, 09:12 PM
DrkFusion's Avatar
DrkFusion DrkFusion is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,926
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

They were ok with it when I asked them, and coded it privatly. I am even running it now with great response, but when it was publically released I wonder why it isn't allowed, it complies with their agreement atleast to my knoweldge.
  #5  
Old 08-18-2004, 12:18 AM
Wayne Luke's Avatar
Wayne Luke Wayne Luke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,694
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

The vBHosting hack goes against the sublicense portion of the vBulletin license and is not allowed to be distributed.
  #6  
Old 09-03-2004, 11:19 PM
dstruct2k's Avatar
dstruct2k dstruct2k is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 318
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Only if you sell hosting.... At least that was how I saw it.
  #7  
Old 09-03-2004, 11:25 PM
Gary King's Avatar
Gary King Gary King is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,046
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dstruct2k
Only if you sell hosting.... At least that was how I saw it.
But then you'd be making use of multiple vBulletins under one license? From my limited knowledge of the mod, anyways.
  #8  
Old 09-04-2004, 01:56 AM
trackpads's Avatar
trackpads trackpads is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Armyville
Posts: 1,074
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

I dont agree with that statement at all. If the entire thing is running under the original set of software (1 instance) then I dont see the problem.

You can do this now just without the hack by allowing other sites to link directly to your forum.

Its obvious the underlying issue here is that Jelsoft sees it as a potential problem for sales which I completely disagree. Thats like saying any of that ezboard crap could even compare to this software. All this hack allows is someone to us VB instead of Ezboard. Which I think would increase name recognition and sales over time.

Its kind of like the tariff or not to tariff argument. I think VB would be much better off in the future to let this happen and even support it. They could then restrict the number of forums etc so that no one tries to create a competitor to ezboard by using a single VB license (cant see that happening but the world is full of idiots).

I remember this same thing happened with UBB a while back. A dev had made a MYSQL hacked version of UBB to do exactly this and infopop didnt mind because on every page was the infopop copyright (can you say super googled?) Plus since it only allowed a single forum for each user it was a great advertisment for the up and coming forum admins to go ahead and buy a full UBB.

I would love to use this on my site and get a lot of my friends off of that dang ezboard crap. But I dont want to piss off any of the VB folks who have been so helpfull. I just hope they do consider it. It makes me feel the same way like I do against miniclip for being so short sighted in support of the VB3 Arcade.

Thanks again,

-Jason
  #9  
Old 09-04-2004, 02:14 AM
trackpads's Avatar
trackpads trackpads is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Armyville
Posts: 1,074
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trackpads
I dont agree with that statement at all. If the entire thing is running under the original set of software (1 instance) then I dont see the problem.

You can do this now just without the hack by allowing other sites to link directly to your forum.

Its obvious the underlying issue here is that Jelsoft sees it as a potential problem for sales which I completely disagree. Thats like saying any of that ezboard crap could even compare to this software. All this hack allows is someone to us VB instead of Ezboard. Which I think would increase name recognition and sales over time.

Its kind of like the tariff or not to tariff argument. I think VB would be much better off in the future to let this happen and even support it. They could then restrict the number of forums etc so that no one tries to create a competitor to ezboard by using a single VB license (cant see that happening but the world is full of idiots).

I remember this same thing happened with UBB a while back. A dev had made a MYSQL hacked version of UBB to do exactly this and infopop didnt mind because on every page was the infopop copyright (can you say super googled?) Plus since it only allowed a single forum for each user it was a great advertisment for the up and coming forum admins to go ahead and buy a full UBB.

I would love to use this on my site and get a lot of my friends off of that dang ezboard crap. But I dont want to piss off any of the VB folks who have been so helpfull. I just hope they do consider it. It makes me feel the same way like I do against miniclip for being so short sighted in support of the VB3 Arcade.

Thanks again,

-Jason
Found that link and site I was referring too-

Hostboard http://www.hostboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

Check out the infopop links :-)

UBBDev link about it-
http://www.ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimat.../10/2438.html?

Now, I am not saying have a massive VB makes any sense but it isnt hurting Infopop one bit. As Tony Soprano would say "Ah.. What ya gonna do about it" :-)

-Jason
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.12 by vBS
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
X vBulletin 3.8.12 by vBS Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.05470 seconds
  • Memory Usage 2,236KB
  • Queries Executed 13 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (2)bbcode_quote
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (120)option
  • (9)post_thanks_box
  • (9)post_thanks_button
  • (1)post_thanks_javascript
  • (1)post_thanks_navbar_search
  • (9)post_thanks_postbit_info
  • (9)postbit
  • (9)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (9)postbit_wrapper
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/modsystem_functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/functions_post_thanks.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • init_startup_session_setup_start
  • init_startup_session_setup_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • showthread_getinfo
  • forumjump
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_end
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_end
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_start
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_end
  • fetch_musername
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • post_thanks_function_can_thank_this_post_start
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete