Ok after a little thought on the idea today, my idea is based purely on the principle that the current situation of members creating threads to propose things isn't done in a diplomatic way and has resorted to name-calling, thread closures, and discussions going round and round in circles with the same things being said again. How about a collection of vB.org users who can congregate, anyone can join the "group" (union as I first called it), and union members would elect a representative, and have a little meeting once a month to raise any concerns, and then the views could be presented to the staff in a sensible and democratic way