[soniceffect]

However, we go based on everything that goes on here as well as everything we find out off of the site.

This is however a conversation about the site. If it`s about things off the site, is it not better to keep it off the site.

member element:- There are members on here (myself included) who do not know, or care for that matter about the off site politics behind it all. Every single one of you posting agrees one with one thing, you all want the site to work and be a good one. So....

Site element:- All people are doing by having slangin matches on the forums, and contributing to the problem.

Coding element:- I may not be a coder on here, however I do code and I appreciate that people want respect, commercial sections, recognition, security guarantee and all the rest, however people leaving, +++++ing, and most of all giving the staff less time to sort the problems through having to reply to petty posts on the forums if not gonna achieve anything at all.

In short .. will you all stop arguing for god sake.