[Eq4bits]

thanks attroll
I figured it out, I do have basic html it's just when all the ifs are thrown in there and calling phrases I get a bit confused

It works now,

I put this where I wanted it to show up:

<!-- Setup for Member menu in navbar -->
               		 <td id="members" 
class="vbmenu_control">
                                      <a href="$show[nojs_link]#members">Members</a> 
                                      <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("members"); </script></td>
	<!-- / Setup for Member menu in navbar -->
		<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="calendar.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[calendar]</a></td>

found and placed ABOVE:

<!-- / NAVBAR POPUP MENUS -->

this:

<!-- Drop down for menu Member in navbar -->
                 <div class="vbmenu_popup"()
id="members_menu" style="display:none">
                <table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" 
border="0">
                <tr><td 
class="thead">Members</td></tr>
                <tr><td class="vbmenu_option">
                        <a href="memberlist.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[members_list]                                    </a></td></tr>
               <tr><td class="vbmenu_option">
	              <a href="userpage.php?do=list">Members Pages</a></td></tr> 
               </table>
               </div>
        <!-- / Drop down for menu Member in navbar -->

once i added a '()' after "<div class="vbmenu_popup"
and added a missing '$show[nojs_link]#' in the set-up it works great.

EDIT: I posted the original and this reply in THIS hack thread because of the note you had in there about "if you don't want an additional navbar skipt to ..... " I assumed since that's what I was doing this was the place to ask.