[SmashinYoungMan]

Originally Posted by Zachery

And how do we make something totally differnt while still keeping things userfriendly. Point of the matter is there is only so much that can be done, before its been done to death. Thats what designers are facing today. Just because styles arn't as facny and 56k death as ravios were doesn't mean some of the stuff coming out today is any worse. I bet now you will find styles that are not only pleasing, but they are xhtml valid and load decent on a slower connection. Which when you face facts, there are tons of people in the US alone who are still on dailup.

I definitely hear you on the dialup thing. Despite using a lot of graphics on my vBulletin site?and my other sites?I take great pains to keep the image sizes reasonable and well-optimized for dialup folks. I remember well the pain of waiting a minute or more for one page of a thread to load when I was on dialup.