[smacklan]

I'm sure I will get blasted for what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. One of the biggest problems with this site today is this hugh elitist, high horse attitude eminating from the "coder" community. There are hugh sites using vbulletin that have not been hacked to pieces with mods from here so the notion that vbulletin would "die" if this site went away because of a coder exodus is a mighty bold assumption imho. Visit some of these sites like WHT, Sitepoint, etc. and read the comments in the threads about vb vs some other forum software and the pro's offerered for vb generally never mention the "hugh mod's available rather the strength of the core product itself. I, for one, could give 2 ****'s about the user ranking system here, but I'm also beginning to feel the same way about the coding community. I've learned what I know about vb not by loading up on hacks from here, but experimenting with my own sites, breaking and fixing things and making them the way I want them...all without the help of the "almighty coder" (except for the awesome stuff I've picked up at The Geek's site...which were definately worth paying for) thank you very much. I come here mainly to see what ideas are being kicked around and how the industry is changing, some friendships and so on...not to be embroiled in juvenile spats and testosterone contests.

okay...rant over...let the flaming begin :banana: