[Mosh]

Thanks for saying that Wayne, this site is all about members helping members and that is what a lot of people around here seem to have forgotten.

I said in a previous post (Erwin stepping down) that I have not posted because I did not want to add oil to the flames, there seemed to be no point because the people involved seemed to have forgotten that one fact, that we are a group of people (all of use vB admins) that have come together to help each other out.

One of the reasons I participate here and give a little back too is because of the amount of help and knowledge I have gotten from this site, I only ever use the official site for my updates or occationally to help out a little.

For a while now, things have been spiralling out of control, and fingers are pointing everywhere. What we should be doing in my opinion is seeing what needs to be done to fix it and just fix it, recriminations and fingerpointing do not help at all, we all know what the situation is, what we need to do if fix the problems, and hopefully what Wayne and the staff here have said are followed by positive actions to rectifiy the problems here.

It really should not have gotten to the stage where coders are removing modifications and admins are stepping down, but saying that we need to move forward and do so positively.

I think the finger pointing has had it's day and I for one am fed up of it, we need to move forward from it and get on with making this site what it was a couple of years ago, a place where members help members, and not members demanding things and thinking it is their god given right to have them straight away is also an attitude I would like us all to move away from too.

If a member helps you out, it common courtesy to thank them for the effort they put into helping you out. Also remember if a hack author supports his hack or not the choice is up to them, they have gone to a lot of effort to give to you in the first place, asking nicely for support will get a better response than demanding support and being rude about it.

Conversely, hack authors should not be rude or put down members because they don't know what they are doing (remember we were all newbies once, and not all of us can code), I know it can get frustrating but blowing of members who require help does not help maintain a healthy attitude on these forums and we are here after all to help members out, are we not??? (as well as getting helped out ourselves and forming new friendships and associations).

I think I have used up more than my 2c worth, but have hopefully put me view across on how this forum has nearly lost it primary focus, and that is to help members help themselves and others.