[FlyBoy73]

I think Intel doing that would be very risky, so if it was someone else's "fault", cool... But, unless this changed as well, I think AMD should have been able to deliver their own computer, or at least Anandtech.

I am always happy to see the companies go at it.. The consumer almost always wins when they do.

I also think I know why Intel got as far behind as the did (Itanium) and I am sure they are hungry to try and redeem themselves. Conroe is probably a good start but I also think it is quite premature, not to mention indicative of a worried company, for them to bring out this future processor and put it up against AMD's not-even-the-latest-and-greatest chip. I will be shocked if AMD does not have something ready go... I think they are just keeping their mouths shut and the future will tell us.

All that being said.. Those are gamer chips. Those are not the server monsters that the Opteron has gotten to be. Hopefully they will have an answer for that, but until then, I'm now a proud 2x 270 DC Opteron server owner after many years of Xeon. There is nothing out there that can compete, and certainly at that level, so I will sleep well tonight. lol Maybe next year I will be saying the thing about some new Intel powered box..

David "Fan-boy of the fastest, cheapest coolest & most reliable processors - Whichever they are"

PS. I too used to literally hate AMD. Every computer I had with them was horrible.. But, that was then..

Originally Posted by kmike

FYI, Anand has posted an update which covers most of these issues:
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2716
The scores didn't change much, except for the F.E.A.R, but it was Anand's fault - he tested the systems at the different settings. So F.E.A.R. scores are more in line with the other results in the update.

I suspect it's not enough to convince you that Intel didn't play dirty there, since even the abovementioned independent results from the leaked sample didn't do. The point is, the tests gained a lot of publicity for Intel, as was intented, and for a good reason. You can shrug them off, but the fact stands - Intel is already moving, and AMD is not. I really hope it didn't fell on deaf ears at AMD, since the placid days of reaping the fruits of its K8 architecture are already numbered. I find it alarming that there're still almost no information apart from speculations about AMD's new architecture - K9 or whatever it was called.

Putting fanboyism aside, the CPU competition is better for us customers, so I'm looking forward for Conroe (and an accompanied AMD price drop )