[Ncturnal]

Originally Posted by Chris M

Regardless of your religion, Christmas is hardly a solely Christian thing these days anyway - It's more about capitalism and severe debt than about the birth of Christ

Christmas never was about the birth of Christ. Simple chronology makes that impossible. He was 33 1/2 years old when he died on Nisan 14 - Hebrew calendar (which is in March or April). If that's the case, then he would have been born around Oct. Christmas was simply a mergence of other secular and pagan festivals. A simple search of the origins of Christmas will show you what I mean. So when people complain that Christmas has lost it's meaning, what they really mean is it never had it.