[Chris M]

Originally Posted by BrentWilson

Even with that the case these people still drive me nuts crying discrimmination while turning around and demanding that a company have it's name associated with things that go against their beliefs.

Has it gotten to a point in this country and this world where it is all about money now?

"I got 150 dollars, give me VBSEO. I don't care that you disagree with my content and do not wish to have your name associated with the likes of my content just give me my license now!"

Give me a break. That stuff pisses me off and that is another reason I defend them so much. I have great respect for someone that stands up for what they believe in and actually turns down 150 dollars multiple times to keep their promise to themselves.

I don't even oppose the use of Marijuana, in fact I push for it to become legalized, yet I feel the need to help someone defend themselves against people that wish to tear the company away from their beliefs just so they can have a piece of software.

At the end of the day, yes, they will conduct business how they wish and that is that...

However there are some cases where their "Acceptable Use" policies are not exactly as clear-cut or "fair" (as if the Internet is anyway) as they could or should be...

Moral reasonings are, in my opinion, not a just ideal to base your business practise on - The point here is that cannabis is legal in some places in the World...

Yes, the World - vBulletin and vBSEO will and do have customers from a global market, not just from the states - And while you may argue about your constitutional rights blah de blah de blah, they don't apply to everyone everywhere, as evident in places such as The Netherlands...

While vBSEO have every right to disagree usage of their software for illegal sites, they should take into consideration the cultural deviations between the Americas and the rest of the world, and acknowledge that what's illegal for some isn't for others in some cases; They should be aware that such actions as denying service may be seen as a bad business move, but more importantly than business, is people's respect for a company...

Now I personally don't like the fact that vBSEO is closed source - The price tag, if it does what it claims to, is steep but probably worth it - However as a coder I like to dismantle what I have installed and while most of it would go over my head with vBSEO (.htaccess stuff, mostly gibberish to me) the PHP and/or database side of it, well, I like to know what my scripts are doing to my forum and site...

But aside from my personal concerns with the product, I seriously think that the vBSEO staff should re-think their policies in light of some of the points raised in this thread, moral, illegal or not...

Some people may take offence to being told that they can't have a site about growing and smoking certain substances when it is legal in their country to do so...

Chris