[jmw]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Haven't been about as much lately since the whole "you are evil because you are going commercial" threads kicked off a few months ago.

I popped in today and was browsing about appalled to see the same mentality and anger toward people who decide that their time and investment should be met with something equal from the people who benefit from it.

In other words - a lot of angry .orgers with a mob mentality toward anything remotely commercial (although ironic that vB isn't lumped into this).

What is up? Sure, OK, .orgers rules: hear no commercial, see no commercial, speak no commercial - however I think its ridiculous to get all agro because someone who released something free then decides that its not worth his time continuing the process unless he gets something out of it. The funniest thing is that most agro/bullying in these situations come from people who do not contribute to .org, they are just users.

Please guys, not everyone can be devoted to code the hours of a part time job for you for free. Cut some people some slack otherwise you are going to have less and less talent here and more and more unfinished or half assed projects. It is true on many levels that you generally get what you pay for

On a similar note, it was discussed at some length ways to provide avenues for commercial and free scripts here. I'm not wanting to stir that up again - however this was awhile ago. Any further progress? I guess your priority is to upgrade to 3.5X first.

Really odd to see the 'ultimate (but only if its free) resource for vB' be on an outdated version. Kind of like going to a MS convention watching them demo on Windows 98 boxes (what kind of message does that send customers!)

Anyhooo - cant we all get along. There is a hell of a lot more in the world to get uptight about than 'hey, this guy was secretly planning on holding the world to ransom when his script came out of beta! He OWES US a final!' - many times people dont plan things that way - life somtimes just changes things.

(let the flames begin :tired: )

What many of the people here in this forum don't get through their thick skull is that not everybody likes free hacks. Most of vbulletin customers don't know a thing about a line of code (not my words but vbulletin's). This hack forum is only for geeks not for the majority of customers of vbulletin. We need paid hacks! Paid hacks should be a forum at the top of this forum not hidden where it is now.

Many people just hate these free hacks myself included. You have to chase the hack developers to do an update on the darn hacks and put up with their .... I'd like to see paid hacks around here but the mentality (of some of the geeks) in this forum is FREE FREE FREEE HACKS BUT IF THERE IS A BUG, YOU ARE SCREWED TILL THE NEXT UPDATE, IF EVER! Meantime, your forum paralized. Example: ucash, ushop and many others.

I guess you coders don't like money. There are hundred of thousand$ to be made by selling hacks for vbulletin. I have posted hack projects here before but nobody answers. It is just 'cause of the mentality of this forum FREE FREE FREE and unreliable!

Again, if you need another push I repeat, most customers of vbulletin don't know a line of code and we members need coders that develop hacks for it and keep them up-to-date. There is a lot of money to be made! Look at how much money Nash is making by creating hacks for phpprobid! http://www.nashbrooklyn.com/forums/forum-89.html I have bought every single mod he has released for phpprobid. He keeps them up-to-date too! You ask him for a mod, he and his team develop it and sell it to his customer base. Customers are happy, he is happy. No coder chasing or problems going on. End of story.