[plubius]

Originally Posted by AN-net

the community has recently gotten very violent. i feel the community is becoming overcrowded with +++++++s. anyone see that new store i think its "Ultimate Shop", that poor guy is being flogged by +++++++s who do not appreciate his time in trying to create a store but instead yell at him calling his hack pitiful. they continue to insult UShop. i really see why some have gone commercial, this community is slowly becoming full of +++++++s who say give me give me but if it doesnt satisfy them 100% they have a right to piss all over it. they seem to think "oh i paid for vbulletin, so if a free hack doesn't satisfy me i will scream and yell as though i paid for it." actually even this has carried over to the .com, people screaming and yelling at devs. critizing them with snide remarks and +++++++ comments. what i really feel like saying to these +++++++s is "++++ off you little greedy +++++, go to phpbb if you want something for free."

I am desperately trying to figure this issue out. I will ignore the above hate filled post for a sec.

The coders here are few, so I would like to address them as a singular body for the purposes of what I have to say. Coder, do you remember when you released your first FOC hack? Why did you do it? For the overall good of fellow VBers, for recognition, for an avenue to a later commercial product? Well, other than the last did you realise your goal?

As Steve Machol said most of us non-coders rarely modify our boards. The board costs a lot of money and comes really nice out of the box. When we use a hack we want it to do exactly what it says. Again, we are not coders, kudos to those that are, even more kudos to those who provide easy to understand installation instructions. When I can afford it I sometimes give them donations. Some months with all of my bills I only eat ramen and drink cheap Walmart cola. That is why the above post reminds me of why I left phpBB: the arrogant, rude and self important snits. I rarely seek support for hacks, I do not badger the hackers. I do think that obsolete or abandoned hacks should be removed to keep some newbie board owner from making a mess of their board.

From what I have seen most of the coders here have no problem releasing and supporting hacks FOC, it is the loud assed minority here who are raising the stink. VB.org allows coders to provide board owners FOC and it should stay that way. Were it to ever change, I am one of the many orgers that will just go quietly away.