Also - this is only part of a community because people who require a charge for their time do not have much of a voice here. This is a resource site for vb customers. Im a vb customer and my customers are all vb customers. Instead of gripping on to the past with white knuckles for fear of change, maybe it would be worth a go? It could be just what .org needs. I know as a user for Free and paid add ons (as well as an author for both) it would be refreshing to have a site to find what you are looking for which is often simply not done when its a commercial free zone