[Chris M]

Originally Posted by Dark Visor

hellsatan, can I ask you a question: How old are you? It is notable that you simply keep repeating over and over what you have already said. Would you please either participate in the discussion by addressing my points with valid arguments or not say anything at all? Thanks.

A majority of sites do not conform with XHTML1.1/CSS. Therefore, they do not validate to be "Valid XHTML" or "Valid CSS". Presence or absence of those labels on a certain site does not mark the content of that site as being of a "1st or 2nd sort". It just identifies the site as being or not being standards-compliant. There are plenty of sites with a cool content but with a poor code. Same here: "PHP Valid" would identify a hack as being standards-compliant (for those who are interested), while saying nothing about the usefullness of the hack and/or about the author himself.

What it would say, however, is that time has been taken to create a neat code. It would also allow the interested end-users to see the list of PHP Valid hacks.



This statement is impertinent to the discussion. You are correct, "code does not become invalid because you don't like the way it has been coded". We are, nevertheless, talking about PHP coding. I'd like to point out that there is a charter entitled "vBulletin PHP Coding Standards". The code that "I don't like how it's coded" does become invalid according to those standards. Although these are not commonly accepted PHP standards, they will doubtlessly get there over time. For now, I'd like to express my gratitude to Jelsoft for taking the first step of publicly outlining these standards, and I'd like to encourage everyone to follow that charter. And to help with the encouragement, I'd like the QA team be resurrected. Admins, or whoever is in charge around here, come on and do it!

My age is irrelevant - However, should you care to look at my profile, you will find my birth date...

I am addressing your points, you are merely not looking correctly - Perhaps if you respected me as someone who might have a valid arguement, then you might find those miraculous responses that so far have eluded you... However, since this is a response to you similar to my previous ones, I doubt you will register this either

There is a difference between XHTML/CSS standards and PHP standards - PHP code being sloppy or invalid does not create rendering issues (unless you use HTML within PHP which is on most counts evil and stupid) in different browsers - You are also talking as if the World Wide Web Consortium and Jelsoft are equal in status - They are not...

Jelsoft are great, but compared to the W3C they are mere specks on the map...

By stating "PHP Valid" as a tag for a QA approved hack, you are therefore implying that the others are not valid - Therefore it is not impertinent to this discussion...

"QA Approved" would imply that the others hacks are bad, incorrect or buggy...

Whatever your status/label/ideal you put to it, there will always be the misconception that those without the status are wrong, bad or not worth looking at, three big and important misconceptions...

This charter is a load of rubbish - They are guidelines - A charter implies law, as in you must code to this standard...

Jelsoft are not PHP - PHP is far bigger than Jelsoft, and you going around tooting Jelsoft's horn and proclaiming they are this, that and the other doesn't make their coding guidelines law, nor does it mean that we have to abide by them...

If you create this QA team, you are going to lose members, and you are going to looe hacks - People will not want to make the hacks to these standards because they are being forced to, and they do not want to have a label stuck on it because someone else is fanatical enough to want a certain standard of code...

And in a final response to your first statement - I will reply to this thread until it is closed voicing my opinions - You cannot and will not silence me, nor will you try and control what I post, where I post or how I post - Do not annoy me with your arrogance and mightier-than-thou attitude - This isn't a highschool playground, so you don't have to big yourself up and act all like you own me...

Satan