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I fixed the prob. I had to add id=pmbox and id=breadbox to the navbar breadcrumb and login tables. i checked some sites and they didn't have these by default either, so I think one of your previous hacks may change the code to this?

on a side note, this is technically not cross browser due tot his, because nutscrape 4.0 doesn't recognize tables as elements, but i dont get why nutscrape 4 is even in the cross browser description. anyone with even an almost up to date browser will have no problems with your code.

thanks for all the help, i didn't apply your most recent change since its working now, but if i have problems when i implement your hovering forums i'll come back and see if that resolves it.

thanks for the great hack and support!