[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by Brad.loo

I am willing to upgrade this board to RC 3 if needed, and will keep it up to date if needed, just send all info about the upgrade to my email and when you would like it done.



There is no need to take sides here, IMO everyone is begin truthful here, we all know this site needs work and as needed it for awhile.

At this point, this is the best way to proceed. Honestly, I think this can be a good site. I don't think you can blame vBulletin 3 on the decline, though in all honesty I am sure it is a contributing factor. Also the License System is an issue we are constantly working on. It works no worse here than it does at vB.org, vB.com or vBulletin-Germany. There are always glitches that have to be handled manually. The difference is for the longest time there hasn't been anyone here to handle those glitches.

So going forward, I think the best way to handle this would be to 1) Upgrade the site 2) Create the reciprocal links to other official vBulletin sites.

Then work on traffic. vBulletin.org no longer has a template forum open to the public so that should not be an issue anymore. I personally recommend this site to hundreds of customers and potential customers per month over the phone, through email and by other means. Unfortunately, at this moment in time it seems like a bad referral. If the license system is really that bad of a problem here then appoint a liason with proper vBulletin Staff to look into issues and resolve them. I personally would take on that responsibility as having a template site is that important to vBulletin. There really isn't anything that is insurmountable here.