Yeah, after counting the amount of template files, I can believe you there.

Actually, this is a case of a coder gone mad I think. Just looking at a lot of these, where there's a few templates with just one or two lines of code in them. Other templates are just part of a page, and I wish they had named the templates a little better. I guess master PHP coders may understand them, but certainly not me. You had a example of changing the breadcrumb nav from the text ">" to a image, but I just went through the templates, and to match that you have to change at least 10 other templates so you have a consistant look on all your pages.

I do PHP-Nuke themes, it's a very basic, simple system, you can change the codes for the header, footer, blocks, main table content block, news headlines and news articles, If you know what you are doing, you can have separate right blocks, and additional code. Once I finish a design, it takes me about half a hour to code it all in complete, before i debug. It's all on one page, or you can insert html files and have everything set up as separate pages.

I use it more for a template wrap than anything, but despite it's simplicity, it's still a very easy system to use, yet has some very powerful template capabilities. Just about anyone with basic HTML/PHP experience can use it, without needed a tutorial to explain everything.

VB on the other hand....

Just a opinion, but software can only be as good as the people that use it, but it doesn't help when only a small handful of those people have the skill and knowledge in all areas to use it properly. I always believed that truly great software should be easy to learn and to use by everyone.

I hope with V3 that they make the ability to change the templates a lot better, and a lot simplier, but I think they will only make it more confusing than it is now.

A suggestion is a new section that details the templates, and where to add code to them for the various graphics. I've notice quite a few posts asking the same questions, so maybe just having one section in this forum would be the best, and I can finish my theme design as well.