[guvner]

Thanks for that, but there's something else that's a little odd. Some of the avatars still show red X's, when I right click and check the properties, all avatars that are called through image.php with all the dateline stuff show up fine, others have a standard URL and still have the red X

e.g.

http://www.yoursite.com/forum/image.php?u=1155&dateline=1116977135

are good

http://www.yoursite.com/forum/images/avatars/49toon.gif

show the red X

Now I have no idea what the differences between those 2 calls are, could it be that some are custom avatars?

Sorry to keep buggin you - everything else is sweet (if I could only get my damn sandbox working right to test it) :P