[Brad]

You can never test a patch on every know machine running out there, a good admin knows that when it is time to patch it is time to back up. People and companys that do not do that pay the price in time.

But why is this even of importance in this debate? vB is not sending files to the users as microsoft dose, they are merly doing a version check.

Besides which, what great burden is it for vB staff to deal with a problem that is caused by an obsolete version? All they have to say (and they do say it) is "That problem was fixed in the 3.x.x release. In order to fix it, you'll need to upgrade to the latest version."

That hardly qualifies as a significant burden.

Support staff pays in time, and time is money. I suppose you could argue that new support issues from new versions could take up more time, espescally if new versions fail on many installs. But as a company jelsoft has to have fath in their product and staff, or they will fail anyway.

I have always thought jelsoft has been fair with the issue, imho if you can not spot and remove the php code yourself then I don't think your ready to turn it off. I know that is alot of ask because of the many newbies that come here to learn without any experance, but that is always how I have felt about the subject.