Thanks Kevin
I undestand a little better now, so ill dig deeper.
the source of the list is a private server using Lyris, its not yahoo or anything like that.
I might try using"" as this list server only has 50 or so posts a day so is never busy enough to slow the server down.
Also if using "" it should only d/l message that are in the pop3 box so it might not cause a flood.
The roast and the gravy make a fine combo mate, sweet